Donald Trump supporters want to 'blow up' Capitol building during speech by Joe Biden

Non-equivalence?

And here I was thinking that a human life was a human life, and all human life was created equal.

But now I find out that there's "non-equivalences" that apparently need to be factored in. So, how does this work? How many black street crime victims equals a white supremacist victim? 10? 100? 1000? How many times more important, and more equivalent, are the heroes that die at the hands of white supremacists, compared to the non-entities that are killed by black street crime?

All animals are equal, but the animals who fall victim to "terrorism" are more equal than others. Is that about right?

Yes, I did include all white supremacist gun nuts and mass murderers- Timothy McVeigh, Dylan Roof, etc.... all of them. I know you're shocked to find out how low the numbers are in reality Vs the hype and hysteria the leftist press has whipped up in your head when they try and sell you on the DANGER posed by white supremacists.

Why are you so bent on putting it into different categories and boxes? Is it for dumb reasons of identity politics?

Are the people is the ghetto neighbors that are victimized by black street crime somehow less terrorized than the victims of white supremacists? Are the victims of white supremacists more specialer victims than all other victims?

You see, the way I see it, we should take into consideration what is generating, in sheer numbers, the largest amount of victims, and that's where the outrage, money and resources should be directed.

As you see it, should we be concentrating on black street crime which has claimed hundreds of thousands of victims over the last 40 years across America, or are the coupla thousand victims of white supremacists far more important because that "effects the wider population", and that's the real DANGER we need to focus on?

 

To put it in perspective-

175 victims in 8 years across the entire planet.

Compare that to this-

769 victims in one year in one city.

But then remember to factor in the "non-equivalencies", so you get the true picture of the DANGER of white supremacy.

 

Oh, I see. So the insurgents were prepped weeks before and all President Trump had to do is to give’m a secret wink and off they go, storming the Congress, looking for Cortez woman? That’s how it all came down?

 

‘Cos not, must have been with song and dance!

 

She’s pretty good with her mouth, or so I heard...

 

Blowing things up? (Pun fully intended)

 

I bet you didn’t have the same level of difficulty understanding what causes religious extremism or events in history but this is unable to be comprehended. Strange. Definitely juggling though so that’s an accurate smilie

 

People fully consumed by a conspiracy theory often point to that which threatens their delusion (the truth) and label it as a conspiracy theory. I understand why you two DAnons might do this, but be warned if you litter my inbox with low-energy contributions you'll end up on my ignore list. Denying the near decade long rampage of left-wing terrorism, and the documented testified on record fact that Congressional Democrats in the chain-of-command were directly informed of a 6-Jan threat and chose to ignore requests for support, are things I just don't have interest in dealing with these days.

 

Was the event planned in advance? Were there an instigators, even Democrat-leaning instigators?

Yes, no? If yes to both, we’lI discuss this subject a little more seriously than I was prepared to. But heck, I’ll invest the time.

 

Yes, sourced by various far right and trump supporter forums

Yes and most likely

The contributing factor has always been 1) people were being told there nation was being stolen from them and they must do something about it and 2) the event organized by trump

 

There has been, is, and will always be left-wing terrorism. I acknowledge that. However, I also note that since the turn-of-the-century it has been on the decline, while right-wing terrorism has been increasing. Do you have any data to suggest otherwise?



Back on topic, troops are currently stationed at the Capitol due to the threat of right-wing terrorism. Did I get any of this wrong?

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Happy to hear more about your congressional dem theory. Haven't seen much of it on PF and haven't read much about it anywhere else. Is there a thread? If not, start one, and I'll come and look at your evidence.

 

I agree it was a mess that was doing to fail. What do you want?

Kudos to Seattle governance for being able to defuse it with minimum of fuss. I wonder if Trump's plan to send in the national guard would have resulted in many more deaths?

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/02/10/8046...ce-is-now-equal-priority-to-foreign-terrorism

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-j...sts-hes-now-speaking-out-about-racist-police/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/06/us/politics/homeland-security-white-supremacists-russia.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-supremacist-terror-threat-column/6263293002/

 

Your own source DEBUNKS your BOGUS allegation!

It was the RACIST white supremacists who were ARMED at those protests which means that they were most likely to be the KILLERS!

 

what do I want I don't think it's all that important what I personally want but I think America wants people who are not you know leftist anarchist running around in the streets declaring that they've taken over a city and it's no longer the United States of America that would be an act of war

 

you specifically made a claim that all of the violence over the last year was all Trump supporters That's a laughably absurd and no one believes that

 

Considering they've already once planted pipe bombs at the capital this year, this threat doesn't seem so far fetched. That being said, if they actually went through with attempting such an attack again, their efforts would be crushed even quicker than the first time they attempted to attack the capitol. Security is already on high alert, and is taking threats like this very seriously this time around.

 

They didn’t attempt, they did.

it was a small issue overall that largely was people taking selfie’s.

this is simply fake news fear mongering

 

sounds a whole lot like that Caesar fella back during the midterm elections it planted pipe bombs that never exploded sorry excuse for a bomber

 

YOU have abjectly FAILED to provide anything that DISPROVES my position while I have SUBSTANTIATED my own position with CREDIBLE sources so what YOU "believe" is utterly irrelevant.

 

well I'll tell you what then why don't you go ahead and start a thread and and restate your claim that all the violence last year was only by Trump supporters go ahead and start that thread I would but I don't want to do that cuz it could be considered a bait thread but go ahead and start that thread so we can all have a good laugh

 

YOUR failure to substantiate YOUR position is NOT my problem.

 

Tell you what, I'll go ahead and start the thread in political opinions, I wont mention you by name but feel free to participate.

 

What YOU do is YOUR problem, not mine!

 

Feel free to provide the guffaws and entertainment...

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/a-most-absurd-and-laughable-claim.585564/