Feeling any more sympathetic to Meghan Markal after Oprah interview?

Where do you get this nonsense from?
Princess Anne's first husband Mark Phillips was a commoner. Long before William was even born let alone married. Their daughter Zara married a rugby player Mike Tindall who was also a commoner.
Sarah Ferguson is a descendant of Charles II, also related to the sixth Duke of Buccleuch, eighth Viscount Powerscourt, first Duke of Abercon
and the fourth Duke of Devonshire.
She's also distantly related to Andrew himself as they are both descendants of the Duke of Devonshire and King James VI.
So if Prince Phillip did despise her it had nothing to do with her being a commoner.
All this stuff is on Wiki If you wish to save yourself embarrassment in the future.

 

What, this King Edward?

Are you sure he was right?
Even in 1940 after the fall of France he was meeting with Nazi officials in Spain and Portugal.
Both British intelligence and the FBI had the couple under surveillance
and Churchill had to force him to leave Europe and go to the Bahamas.
After the war a file of documents from the Nazi foreign ministry were found which detailed communication between the ministry and Edward during the war and plans to overthrow George and reinstate Edward as King. According to the files the couple did not dismiss the plans nor did they inform British intelligence of the conversations.

 

Very true. But you know how it is. The public seems to think they have a say in such things when it comes to Celebrities.

Everyone has an OPINION. ( whether it is wanted or not Human nature being what it is..
People expect the "royals" to follow tradition........Like maybe after his great granddad. Phillip.

But it is their kid......and they get to pick the name. Any guesses as to what they will call their little girl??

 

No. I'm not saying Edward was a good guy. He shouldn't have been forced to abdicate because of who he loved.

I've become a fan of English history; especially wrt the monarchy. The whole royalty thing is fascinating to me. After I read about Katherine the Great, I started working through other monarchs. Victoria was quite interesting, as was the entire Tudor reign. My next target is the War of the Roses, which gave the world loony Henry.

 

Good for you. I enjoy that history too. Have you bee to England?? I have and loved every second there Would love to go back and spend more time there. Stunning historical buildings with such great stories are all around one. Rather magical.

 

The problem was with the church. As Monarch and Head of State the King became the head of the Church of England. It was the church who objected most to the King marrying a twice divorced woman.

 

No. It's on the list. (It's behind Australia, though)

He needed a Thomas Cromwell!!!

 

We need a separation of Church and State.
He needed a bullet in the back of his head.

 

I think you have thought too much about this. Without him, she is a cable TV once was.

 

Meghan Markle Filed Complaint Against Piers Morgan Over His Comments on Her Mental Health

https://people.com/royals/meghan-ma...utm_content=031021&cid=613789&mid=52736073885


She certainly seems t o know the power of lawsuits, complains and TV interviews..........and is suing it.

She can't seem to handle any kind of feed back or criticism.She seems to want the celb status , ......but on her terms only. Life don't work that way.

 

...along with over 40,000 viewers and several mental healthcare organisations.

 

Does anyone really understand the motive behind doing this IV?? Going public against one's in laws is in very poor taste at best. That applies to anyone......... and celebs should set some kind of example.by virtue of their notoriety. IF this was a sympathy ploy............. then it might just have backfired . (although many went for it)
Wonder if she is pizzed off because her kids don't have a royal title. and the security that she thinks s they are entitled to.

and the soap opera continues.........stay tuned .... or Not

 

Yes.... I heard .
A couple of things come to mind:

He was out of line. I think it was just a matter of time ...as his verbal style has been getting increasingly offensive and arrogant. but she made a lot of things public that she did not have to. She had to know ,things would blow up. She is not media ignorant. Did she want to embarrass the Royal family. ......take on an intuition that is hundreds f years old??? If they are as archaic as somethink.......thenlet them fossilize at their own rate.

Discretion is the better part f velour. in many of these situations.

 

Well, while I agree they shouldn't have agreed to the interview, especially with Oprah, they have both been accused of causing rifts in the Royal family for all sorts of selfish reasons.
People have said Meghan only married Harry for his money and status, that she forced him to step down from his royal duties so she could exploit their fame for money etc. Now if the truth was that Harry had his own reasons for wanting to step down, she was made to feel like an outsider, subjected to racial slurs, not accepted by certain members of the royal household or the British tabloids, suffered severe mental health issues as a result of her treatment, was unable to campaign on issues she was used to talking about and so on wouldn't you expect her to want to put the record straight? Would you have had the strength to remain silent in her position?

 

She threw Kate under the bus, which is bad karma. She could have said that it wasn't true at all and left it at that.

She didn't have to throw around all the racist stuff. I think her point about them refusing to give Archie security was her big drop-mike moment.

Too many details that are completely unverifiable. Gives fuel to those who think she's some sort of money grabbing sl*t.

I only watched about 15 minutes, and I thought it could have been over in five.

"We disagreed. They wouldn't secure Archie. Most of what was written about me was garbage."

Done.

 

Do you think that the interview served to set the record straight t?? or h;as it inflamed things to the point of creating more sensationalism and hard feelings..........After all ....They are his family. She is a dominant personality...... and Harry is pretty much doing what she wants.......which is what he thinks makes her happy. He is a lot like Diana. He wears his emotion son his sleeve. (not a bad thing at all)........but can make him vulnerable. He is not used to coping in the outside real world. .....so he is totally reliant on her . She likes t o be in control....... So it might work

I kinda think she liked the role of a senior royal.........but did not like following their rules. & structure. She wanted to do it on her terms.......But the firm has established protocols , just as an other business....... and she found it to suffocating and could not/ world not adjust. ( accommodate to them) She assumed a lot about the Royals......and did not do any real research about them and their traditions........or the role she would be playing.

She is not the only outsider to marry into a Royal family................ but others have handled it quite differently. for eg: Autumn Phillips (CDN married Princess Annes son. ( who could have been helpful in adjusting to the royal family) Princess Marie married into the Danish Royals........and she is from Tazmaina.........( a stunningly gorgeous couple . She learned a new language in order to adapt.)

 

I suspect that the length of the interview and the line of questioning was entirely down to Oprah. I thought Meghan was pretty restrained considering how desperate Oprah was to get some sensational sound bites.
As for Kate, like everyone else, I have no idea what was going on between the pair of them. Maybe Kate was jealous of the attention Harry and Meghan were getting as many sources have suggested, maybe it was Kate that had ''concerns'' over the colour of their unborn baby, maybe it was Kate that made Meghan feel unwelcome. All we were told was that the pair had some disagreement over clothing.

 

You're making a hell of a lot of assumptions about the relationship Harry and Meghan have and who is the dominant personality.
Harry didn't seem to have any problems coping with active service when he put his life on the line for his country. This portrayal of him as weak and submissive isn't coming from any reputable source. It's coming from the toxic British tabloids who are reacting to him being outspoken about their treatment of his mother his wife and his child and from the toxic American RW media reacting to Meghan's outspokenness on equal rights.

 

The problem with the whole thing is it yields nothing but speculation.......

The IV was in bad taste. They have to learn to handle their issues in a less public way. Maybe this living in California and being more independent will force them to mature. She obviously can't cope being a royal as defined by the British Royal family........ So this is probably for the best. Now it might be time t go under the radar a bit .....so things can settle down. They have stirred up enough people ....around the world. Not classy.

Something about Meagan=Harry fatigue comes to mind . Wonder if there will be more casualties from this.

 

It's her own damned fault for not doing any due diligence before the wedding. She claims she went in knowing absolutely nothing about the firm.

Well, duh. I wouldn't marry someone who had no interest whatsoever in my family and our dynamics.

Shame on Harry for not preparing her. Shame on her for not even realizing it was a BFD. She couldn't watch a documentary? Not even one?

 

You are right. I am making assumptions.........based on observable behavior.



. By opting out of his family......he has left himself vulnerable. Everyone needs a strong support system. Let' s hope he has a strong circle of friends. He should have known the repercussions that could take place from such a revealing IV. He made his choices. he has to live with them . They both love causes....... and that might be the path they now take .......o their own terms. best wishes to them........and hope their baby girl arrives healthy . Her pigmentation should not matter to anyone. It is just biology. (like hair ,eyes, etc )

 

Some of this has to go back to Diana.

The spare always gets treated differently from the heir. I personally think that's why the heir is typically goes rogue in some way.

I can't imagine him being happy with how negatively Meghan was treated, compared to how Kate was treated.

Kate eats avocado while pregnant: Good for her being all healthy!
Meghan east avocado while pregnant: How incredibly selfish of her to eat such a water consuming food!

 

Some traditions will be meant to be broken at one time or another and when they are, There isn't much that can be done.

 

Indeed. WHO does not get to know the family of the one they are planning to marry. That says a lot about her arrogance too .Did she not realize that she would be representing the US ....as an American??

OK....times have changed......but Grace Kelly did an admirable job in HER role as PRINCESS. And she went through a major cultural adjustment
Meagan is almost 40 yoa. Her age demands some wisdom and maturity..


But......one can only wish them well..........Now, if they are serious about wanting their privacy......they should stoop doing media attention attracting behaviors.

 

By opting out of his dysfunctional family he has chosen the freedom to live his life the way he wants to. If that includes campaigning on mental health issues, living where he wants and speaking to whoever he wants to then good for him. After the way his mother, wife and child have been treated I can't blame him at all.
The news cycle will eventually move on and he can get on with living the life he feels is best for him and his immediate family.