Feeling any more sympathetic to Meghan Markal after Oprah interview?

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  1. gorfias

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    "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance". Even if such a discussion took place, it was likely not about hate but tradition, lineage, things of great importance to the royal family. Someone who was not weak as a baby fart in a wind storm would have simply replied that the family could use some diversity. They should and are concerned with things like inbreeding. So, this kid would be a living example of not doing that. ITMT:

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    Thanks to Winfrey and royals, CBS morning show makes history (msn.com)
    It could look like hosts Gayle King, Anthony Mason and Tony Dokoupil must be doing something right when it comes to Prince Harry and Meghan Dutchess of Sussex. The might have dropped the title but you never can tell. What the future holds for the Royal family, That remains to be seen and It will be God's will.
     
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    OK then, I have not heard the Royal Family ever talk about it.
     
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    An interview to discuss an interview?

    SMH at what excites some people.
     
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    Meghan's parents both born in the U.S.A. Father Thomas Markle was born in Newport, Pennsylvania and Mother Doria Ragland was born in Cleveland, Ohio.
     
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    You understand they are ROYALTY, right?

    They volunteered for a position in the harsh glare of the public eye. A position that carries the weight of a thousand years of tradition and history. If they didn't like the obligations and responsibilities that go with that, they should have 'abdicated' at the outset. You don't get to be a spoiled self-indulgent baby AND a public figure/working member of a much respected royal family.
     
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    Bingo!

    Civilised and decent people. It doesn't take money or status.
     
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    It has NOTHING to do with her pet projects. The woman is a narcissist and a grifter, and most people can see that. I'd wager my left leg that had Harry brought home a dignified and regal African noblewoman, she would have been loved and feted for her fine character and self-respecting behaviour.
     
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    1) She made herself an outsider. Kate was able to pony up and walk the walk, and she's even closer to the throne.

    2) Of course she wasn't 'subject to racial slurs'. Who do you think these people are .... trailer dwelling rednecks?

    3) If she 'wasn't accepted' it was probably because she was a pain in the ass. You reap what you sow.

    4) Mental health problems brought on by her refusal to accept the bed she made for herself.

    5) Why should she get to choose whatever pet projects she likes? No one else does, in that family. It's all carefully managed by PR people.

    6) I would never have made such a thoughtless hash of it in the first place. I would have either turned him down, or accepted and committed to the role that goes with marrying royalty. You know, like Kate.

    7) Remaining silent is what NORMAL people do. Narcissists think the world needs to know how great they are, and how terrible everyone else is.
     
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    Jeeezus .... where do you live? And what kind of people are you mixing with?

    That's really not normal at all. At 18+ the incidence is getting up there, but no way is it common in 16 year olds. In fact I personally know several social groups of late teens/early 20's who don't drink, smoke, or do drugs - and never have. It's a deliberate choice with them, not an accident of youth.
     
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    Kamala's father is mixed white, African, and Indian. So Kamala is MOSTLY Indian. She's no more African than she is white.
     
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    How could or would you possibly know that? They would make every effort to keep visits very quiet.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    I think that cultural differences were too much for her to handle. M is not British...... Kate is. Kate is educated in good British schools. Kate is more mature . When she and Wills had their brief breakup because of Charles , she handled her hurt with dignity and aplomb......William drank;-) Fortunately both are strong people and got back together with little fan fare...... and no dirty laundry for everyone to hear or see

    Meagan got what she wanted......... and now they can live the life they created for themselves. Time will indicate as to how much damage was done....... and if there was any purpose to this kind of publicity event.


    In many ways they are good for each other. Neither one is sophisticated....... and even though Harry is born into Royalty........he does not comport himself that way. He has a regular kind of person style and attitude . Not exceptionally bight.. His biggest asset is that he is truly a PEOPLE PRINCE.. He relates so easily with anyone and everyone. He is caring and seems devoted to his little family. Time and effort might bring some resolution between him and his Royal family.

    No more tell all interviews ....please. And stay in therapy
     
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    I don't think you understand the nature of royalty. You don't volunteer for it you are born into it. Harry has chosen to leave.
     
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    I get it, you are not weighed down by empathy like normal people.
     
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    It has been reported.
    The hospital is under siege by journalists from all over the world, there's no way anyone would get in or out with all their security detail without being seen. The family has not chosen to keep visits secret in the past. Why would they?
     
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    Seems that a number of people have been hurt through this public exposure. In every split there is collateral human damage. So empathy for those that sustained hurt from the fallout seems in order too.

    They have what they wanted.........so why go public and create issues with others. If she wants t o work on women's issues , and racial issues........and be a role model......
    She can trash the tabloids.........but trashing HIS family is in poor taste/bad form.. Family issues should be sorted out privately with the respective members.
    Complaining about how much she gave up............. is silly..........as she made those choices to marry him. Is she trying to make him feel guilty or obligated?? The dynamics are interesting.
     
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    Here is some history to where Meghan Markle the Duchess of Sussex's parents came from:
    Thomas Markle is descended from German, English, and Irish immigrants. His forefather Heinrich Martin Merckel emigrated to the United States from Lampertsloch, a historically German-speaking town in modern-day France near the French–German border, and later changed the spelling of his name to Markle. Among Meghan's distant ancestors is her paternal great-great-great grandmother, New Hampshire landowner Mary Hussey Smith (died 1908), herself a descendant of an American colonial family which can be traced to Captain Christopher Hussey (died 1686), a founder of Nantucket, Massachusetts.
    Doria Ragland is descended from African American enslaved persons in Georgia. According to information passed down (much of it verbally) from earlier generations the Ragland name came from William Ragland, a Methodist who had emigrated during the eighteenth century from Cornwall, England to North America, settling successively in Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia. It is inferred by family members that Doria Ragland's first identifiable African American Ragland ancestor was Richard Ragland, born in Jonesboro, Georgia, in 1830; he died a free man, after the abolition of slavery in 1865.
     
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    Meghan intends to make it her will, not God's will. She's pushing a political agenda on the British people.

    Empathy should be reserved for those who deserve it. Not for those who deliberately hurt and pain others for their own ambitions and liberal agenda. But then again, they do create their own set of values.



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    On race. If I recall correctly, Queen Victoria's ancestry went back to a Moor ancestor 9 times. As for Diana, if I recall correctly again, one of her ancestors was an Indian - and it could be seen in her pretty face - if not in her coloring.

    Since the British family has moor ancestry from Spain, wouldn't it mean that other royals must have Moorish ancestry as well? So if one of the royal children turned out to be 'black' or 'brown', and were rejected by the other royals, then that would definitely be considered racist. But how can Megan say that she wasn't accepted because of her race, when a white person with the same background as she has wouldn't have been accepted either?

    That this logic is not being presented by the media, means that their is a liberal agenda against the British crown. This would also explain why the media keeps harping about Prince Andrew and his relationship with Epstein, when Bill Clinton rode on Epstein's Lolita Express 32 times and not a word is mentioned.
     
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    I'm going to say that race may have been one small compounding factor here, but it definitely wasn't the main factor.

    The race thing only helps reinforce the stereotype and suspicions that would already have been there.

    I'm pretty sure that the royal family would have already felt uneasy about his choice of bride even if she was 100% white, keeping all the other factors equal.

    As for the Queen, I believe that the race issue would have been an almost insignificant factor to her, personally, but that she would be a real stickler about a woman who does not do her duty and who is not willing to sacrifice, which is the case with Meghan. Both sexes in the royal family, but women in particular, are expected to sacrifice their personal life desires for the sake of setting a proper and dignified example for the rest of the country, and being a part of the royal family is expected to carry many responsibilities.
     
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    The relevant words that explain your position.
     
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    Moorish ancestry?
    That's news to me, do you have a link?
    The current monarch's ancestry is usually acknowledged to be Hanoverian.
     
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    I read it many years ago. It appears that one of Queen Victoria's ancestors was Spanish royalty, and one of their ancestors had married a moor. The article said that her ancestry could be traced back to the same Moor 9 times. The Spanish ancestry would well explain Victoria's small stature, since most monarchs were Germans and quite tall.

    There's a lot of ancestry that's not publicly known. i always wondered if the reason Catherine the Great was chosen to be the wife of the Russian Tsarvich by Frederich the Great, had to do with some Byzantine nobility in her background? This would have made her more acceptable to the Orthodox Church, and the Russians in general.

    This of course is just a suspicion on my part, since I never read anything to that affect.
     
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