Autopsy Shows George Floyd Would Have Died Anyways

That is absolutely NOT an excuse for murder. It never has been.

 

In this case, the criminals are the officers who murdered a guy who very clearly posed no threat.

 

I'm a little stunned that you seem perplexed at how street guys operate. Just because you got in a car with another officer does not mean you rode there together. I do not know if they did but I do know they operate in pairs, usually a rookie with an older officer. Chauvin was the older officer here.

 

They're action was totally necessary. Wait, were/are you a police officer? How exactly do you know what a threat to a police officer is? He was a threat. He was threat who needed to be restrained, which they did. If heh had sat in his car he'd have died. He was CLEARLY able to breath because he could TALK.

Ask a doctor how that works. Wait, before you ask watch the vid again where he was claiming (while breathing) that he couldn't breath, notice he started that while still in his car. Saying you can't breath for 15 minutes doesn't make it so, and he was the poster child for being a lying POS.

 

You have no idea what constitutes a threat, obviously. One restrained you keep a lunatic that way until transport, or in some cases (mine) you use your k9's leash as a leg harness. Giftwrapped for safety!

 

They are not equipped or trained to stabilize and reverse a coronary/pulmonary arrest. They did as they were trained, called for the ambulance and tried to get him to calm down and cooperated and first sit in their vehicle but her refused and fell to the ground and still struggled with them. I showed the picture from their training which was hold him on the ground as they were doing. His shortness of breath, from what the autopsy showed, was not due to a restriction it was due to his heart not being able to properly pump blood to the lungs.

 

The officer will have his day in court. The court of public opinion is not subject to the rules of the court of law. You should know that.

 

That is what he just said.

 

There is absolutely NO question that Floyd was not a threat when he was murdered.

It's a well known medical fact that someone can say words audibly when they can't breathe in enough air to survive.

The fact that he said those fateful words does not cover for the murder.

And, your garbage about Floyd is absolutely irrelevant. Your character judgement and that of the officers has absolutely nothing to do with the crime of murder.

 

You're ignoring that Butterballs wandered off into the tall weeds with a comment on public opinion.

In fact, due process has already brought a major award against the police in this case.

 

It was against the city and department, not against the officer.

His comment on public opinion was 100% correct. He is innocent until proven guilty

Already proven guilty of murder???
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First sentence: it was a judgement of the event in question.

Second sentence: There is no "innocent until proven guilty" in the court of public opinion.

Third sentence: The video evidence, the judgement of city government, and the court of public opinion all have these officers as guilty.

 

well, where did you arrive at that conclusion? I mean I have personally seen handcuffed and violent people acting not only dangerously, there are examples of handcuffed suspects stealing police cars and shooting people. Maybe try arresting people and see how easy it is. Start with drugged up meth heads, I'm sure that'll work out smoothly.

That's a fact.

As far as well know facts you should consult a doctor. If you can chant about not breathing for 15 minutes you can most certainly breath.

We should all welcome Chauvin back to a promotion. if there is one thing we do not need it's violent felons who overdose while committing crimes against other Americans. I'm puzzled why anyone would make apologies for people like floyd.

 

I do know that, but reading the officer is a murderer doesn't make any less bullshit does it?

 

The hard evidence says just the opposite. He had already consumed a fatal amount of drugs. The procedures used was approved and taught. The autopsy did not find evidence that the restraint caused his death.

 

The fact that we don't want criminals unchecked is NOT an excuse for having police murder those they believe to be criminals.

We have courts.

Nobody is interested in apologizing for what Floyd did.

There is REAL reason to apologize for what the police did. And, the city had to do that.

 

It doesn't matter WHAT Floyd consumed or how frail he was. The police do not get to kill people for that.

I do agree with you that there seems to be a serious problem with the training.

That really IS a major starting point for where to go from here. Police departments that have problems like this one (and there are clearly many that do) need significant improvement.

 

It was an approved procedure and the autopsy did not find that kneeling on his neck killed him.

 

Good news then nobody murdered that loser. He caused his own demise, and the city threw bribe money at the family. The same family who disowned said loser years ago for being a 7 time violent felon who would rather enjoy meth/fent and fight the police than have the courts revoke his probationary status AGAIN. Cities have a history of buying off certain communities to prevent them from going ape****.

 

And the cops had his medical history handy? And managed to carefully review it for any indication of risk (assessed presumably via their extensive medical training) before doing what they had to do?

 

I'm not 'excusing' anything. I'm saying the nature of the particular war (a plague of dirtbag criminals) equates to casualties. They are not malicious or even intentional deaths, any more than they are in other wars. I have no doubt some are avoidable, but the people fighting the war ON YOUR BEHALF are human and therefore fallible.

Once again, if you have a problem with the war as it is, then lobby those who keep it alive.

 

He had COVID 19 and had recovered from it.

 

His behaviour made that option much more difficult! The guy RESISTED, remember.

You're a fantasist. In what war have foot soldiers EVER been able to stop and carefully consider the personal history of each individual 'enemy'? A Disneyland war? A cartoon war?

Here's an idea ... send social workers to do these arrests. I'm sure they'll do a much better job of keeping violent criminals from making life hard for the honest and hardworking public.

 

The root cause is CRIME, obviously. In places with much lower crime rates, this sh!t ain't happening.

 

No, they don't need any of that (except perhaps better screening for sociopaths). They need LESS CRIME.