McConnell vows 'scorched earth' if Senate ends filibuster

And if trump had won the election, you’d be one of those people cheering it on.

 

I hope he can, but I takes two to tango, but the trump cultists can’t dance.

 

You evidently forgot (or swept under the rug) Pelosi's infamous words, "You have to vote for the bill before you find out what's in it."

 

Angry turtles are hilarious.

 

Of course McConnell would say that.

The irony is that he tabled a number of bills and would not even allow them a vote in the Senate.

Scorched earth started under him...

 

Partisan bills should never become law. If both sides can't agree on what is best for the country then it isn't best for the country. The filibuster helps prevent partisan bills and, therefore, is a good thing.

 

I have the same concerns you do. However, I suspect this stimulus package will be off-set somewhat by tax hikes, rather than tax cuts.

 

I think she was referring to the 130 Senate amendments, largely imposed by Senate Republicans in the guise of bipartisanship and prior to their voting against the bill...to paraphrase John Kerry, they were for it before they were against it.

 

That's kind of my point. Look, I liked Trump's policies, but I'm hardly a cultist. In general, I prefer GOP policies over DEM, but that doesn't mean I'm an extremist or think compromise is a dirty word. I lean toward the practical compromise when it comes to legislation. You are seeing some GOP people reaching out, like the group of 10 Senators, like Joni Ernst on the domestic violence issue, like Susan Collins, etc. Even getting a few GOP members to vote for a bill would show some bi partisanship. Do some things incrementally, in small bites, instead of loading up these huge bills and always inserting poison pills for the other side. A lot of voters who liked GOP policies but couldn't stand Trump's personality voted for Biden based on his promises to govern more towards the center and to come together. It's important to realize that if they determine they were lied to you'll see it in the midterms and beyond.

 

On your last comment, Democrats are pushing for socialism every single day and just passed an unnecessary $1.9T stimulus package to prove it. The entire Democrat platform is socialism based!

 

Yeah, helping businesses return to profitability is so socialist.

The stimulus package is Keynesian, not socialist.

 

The problem with your point of view, which could be legit were it not for the fact that McConnell is not interested in bipartisanship, he is only interested in blocking ALL democrat bills proposed for legislation.

See, when had a president like Trump, when we had people like Limbaugh (RIP) and Hannity, Beck, Dobbs, Levine, being dishonet to half the population every day of the week for years, we are never going to get to a place where we could have a meeting of mind on anything.

Hell, if I believe half of what those prevaricators like Limbaugh, Hannity, et all, say about liberals and democrats, I'd still be a republican.

Yes, and Reid could have nuked the filibuster for legislation, but he didn't, don't lecture us with your fake virtue.

Reid nuked the filibuster for bench appointments because McConnell was blocking all of them, and there was a huge back log of cases building up there was a tremendous need, so Reid had no choice. McConnell used this as a tit-for-tat pretext to deprive Merrick Garland of a hearing and nuke the filibuster for SCOTUS appointments, ( when they won back the senate ) which there was NEVER an urgent need to do so, the left wasn't blocking ALL of repubs appointments appointments. He did 10 months before there was a vote, but when the shoe was on the other foot, DURING the vote, what do we hear from McConnell? He totally forgot about the argument he used to justify Kavanaugh in the appointment of Barret, and nothing spells 'representing the will of the people' like a 6/3 right wing court, proving republicans are not interested in bipartisanship, they are only interested furthering in the right wing agenda by any and all justifiable means.

This idea of bipartisanship is a joke, and went out the door when Gingrich was speaker, and with the help of Reagan's repeal of the fairness doctrine, that genie left the bottle when we got hate-the-left radio for decades by Limbaugh, et al, and you expect Bipartisanship when republicans have been poisoning the landscape with hate for 40 years?

I don't think so.

 

Government supporting the people by paying them $$$ is socialism!

Government not restricting businesses is capitalism.

One is the right way and one is the wrong way!

 

Well, she wasn't. Her words came right before the scheduled House vote. (And, she was responding to both Republican and Democrat complainers.)

 

She was being sarcastic.

 

I got bad news for you, that's not socialism.

Hell, that's what republican tell us when we point to successful socialistic societies, such as Norway, Finland, Denmark, etc, what
to republicans say?

they are not socialist, they are capitalist.

Get with your own brethren on this, you are out of step.

 

Meh, filibuster my arse. What does it ever accomplish other than delaying some congress-critter's vacation plans?

 

Grudge-holding isn't going to help this country, and its time for both sides to let it go. Of course, hyper-partisans like yourself on one side and extreme right wingers on the other side will never agree to do so, but I hope one day soon the majority will insist on it. It would be really nice if some of the adults in Washington would take the lead on it as they promised to.

 

Despite my opinion, Biden will try and work with repubs.

Like I said, McConnell is NOT interested in bipartisanship.

Obama bent over backwards to work with repubs.

the entire reason he picked the ACA, 'mandated insurance' instead of single payer, was because the idea
originated with a conservative think tank.

For 14 months, repubs added 188 amendments to the bill. when the day came to vote on it, after all that, what did repubs do?

NOT ONE ****ING REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR IT.

If Obama had known that ahead of time, hell, he could have went with single payer and said **** republicans, but he didn't.

What are you talking 'grudge'? the very term applies to a past act. McConnell is going to block EVERYTHING NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE.

You're talking bunk.

 

Yeah, the last time I pointed to the happiest nations on earth, who run successful countries, Denmark, and the netherland countries,
what did repubs say to me?

"they are not socialist, they are capitalist countries".

Y'all need to make up your minds.

 

No it's not. Socialism is when the people own the means of production

That isn't Capitalism either, even Adam Smith didn't call for total Laissez-faire

There is no right or wrong way for all circumstances. The right way for right now is for government to give money to the poor and middle classes who will spend it on the necessities they have been foregoing this last year and so stimulate the economy. Giving it to business owners will not work as they will invest it abroad or buy their own stock rather than make things to sit in warehouses because most people don't have money enough to buy anything.

 

First off, I have no brethren. I disagree with Republicans almost as much as I disagree with Democrats.

Second off, these are the first steps towards socialism. The push is on. Selective forgiveness of debt (student loans) is the next step.

And finally, the countries you spoke of as successful socialist societies are not socialist and we all know that!

 

Y'all? Who are these y'all?

And those countries are not socialist!

 

So am I wrong? Are we really headed towards communism? Maybe that is the truth that we are all avoiding! The Dems want to control the people! Hmm....

 

But she did not let anyone read the bill before voting. You're beating a long dead horse.