Another take on the vaccines

Well I certainly trust the Australian government and the British government (despite Boris) and the German government and...........

See it is NOT just in the USA that this monitoring occurs......

 

I don't do holy links, dude...

 

It's not her who gets payment for more covid cases...

That seems to be the new favorite lefty buzzword... "conspiracy theory"...

 

1. Here's an explanation of what I mean by "vaccine load" How the Vaccine Schedule in the U.S. Has Evolved Since the 1950s | The Truth About Vaccines

2. FYI: Family to Receive $1.5M+ in First-Ever Vaccine-Autism Court Award - CBS News

3. Your moot points, supposition and conjecture aside....it usually takes YEARS of research and clinical trials before a vaccine is approved for distribution. What has happened with Covid essentially throws medical scientific methodology out the window. Again, FYI: The Risks of Rushing a COVID-19 Vaccine - Scientific American
Playing Russian Roulette with a Covid-19 Vaccine – GaryNull.com

 

Exactly.

You would far prefer to have opinions.

I'm fine with that part, but when you ask others to ignore science in favor of your opinions, you are going to get called on that - as should be the case, obviously.

 

Vaccines present targets that your own body uses to develop totally natural defenses. Vaccines give your body exposure to threats that it will face in the future, so that your body gets a head start in the battles your body is designed to fight. Suggesting there is some "load" associated with vaccination hits me as HIGHLY doubful. Vaccines don't last in your body. So, what is this "load" thing?

Using juries of those with no known scientific understanding as a review of science is really pretty stupid, don''t you think?

Let's remember that ALL standard procedures were followed up through significant testing on the general public - testing involving many thousands of people who volunteered to be part of these trials.

The part not followed was a round of testing involving an even larger number of volunteers. An assessment was made that the threat of COVID is larger than the threat posed by possible ramifications of vaccines that, after testing, had shown no negative impact.

That does NOT throw procedure in the air - AT ALL. It was a judgement call.

And, that judgement call paid off in a huge way. Today, we have more than 100,000,000 doses administered over a period of months.

The results have been stupendously positive. Even if you disagree with the decision making process (an FDA decision I see as solid, based on the massive testing), one can NOT argue with the outcome.

 

Actually the correct name is thimerosal (I assume, just a typo since you do know your stuff). Taking away the thimerosal was a concession to concerned parents to see if they'd accept the vaccine for their kids, although the evidence is that thimerosal is not harmful. So they made vaccines without it, to appease people. I think it was a mistake. The truth is always better. When you start to compromise even with a partial endorsement of insane beliefs, you lose trust and your message gets muddled, and you give ammunition to the anti-vaxxers: "see, thimerosal does cause autism; better proof, they took it out of the vaccines but won't admit that it does." Terrible idea, in my opinion.

 

Which they have been, as I looked into this....and the concern regarding essentially experimental gene therapy masking as a traditional vaccine still stands. Just a tidbit here: Covid-19: EMA Leaks Raise Concerns Over Vaccine mRNA Integrity | Physician's Weekly

 

First off, it's not a "vaccine"....the Israelis are hip to this: This is not a vaccine - Israel National News

And then there's this:

ADVERSE EFFECTS OF MESSENGER RNA VACCINES An Evidence Review from the Penn Medicine Center for Evidence-based Practice December 2020

mRNA vaccine review final.pdf (upenn.edu)

And thank God for investigative journalists, pod casters and the like (whistle blowers)

Covid-19: EMA Leaks Raise Concerns Over Vaccine mRNA Integrity | Physician's Weekly

Once again, you weave in a lot of supposition and conjecture into your alleged authoratative screed....but basics can't be ignored.

Also, since doctors have the "option" of listing whether "pre" or "underlying" conditions were/were not the root cause of death in covid positive cases, it's real interesting that all these slowly increasing (as reports come in) "coincidences" of people dying after receiving a Covid vaccine are listed as "no relation" to the vaccine.

But you keep selling the party line, as you are the self appointed "expert".

 

While I detest Lew Rockwell and his vial racism, his paranoia of gov't has given him the "broken clock" syndrome in this respect.

The official line is that some of the vaccines, while saving the patient may STILL leave them carriers (providing that they were accurately typed positive in the first place). That's a "vaccine" first in my book.

 

Hmmm, check this out, and note the cop out by the CDC at the end of the article:

Vaccines and autism: a new scientific review - CBS News

Then there's this:

Co-Author of Lancet MMR-Autism Study Exonerated on All Charges of Professional Misconduct - Elizabeth Birt Center for Autism Law & Advocacy (ebcala.org)

Courts quietly confirm MMR Vaccine causes Autism - WhiteOut Press

 

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No, it is her who treats them, and does not lie about them as you suggest.

not new at all, been around a long, long time. One party is more prone to believing in them than the other for some reason.

 

Ahhh, but remember that doctors have been given permission to "choose" whether a death is due to a precondition or directly from Covid.....that's not case study.

 

death is rarely from a single thing, it is no different with COVID than it is with the flu or many other things.

My FIL officially died of heart failure...his heart quit beating due to the cancer in 2/3 of his organs.

 

Sorry, but that smoke screen won't fly. The case you quote has direct cause and effect. The Covid cases type ALL pre-conditions as "COVID RELATED". So if your FIL (I don't know the initial meaning, sorry if i offend) had serious congestive heart problems BEFORE the cancer, then then the cancer was IN ADDITION, NOT THE TOTAL CAUSE. Covid "cases" are treated just the opposite.

 

Null, which means Zerro in German, is just a snake oil sales man.
What joke.

 

Not so much with vaccines.

I'm getting a covid vaccination when my turn comes (soon). Even if you're younger and unlikely to die, you don't want covid from what I've read about "long haulers."

 

Some young people have already had it, so don't need to get the vaccine.
But it could be tricky in some cases because some people might not be entirely sure they had it.

 

There are tests for determining whether you had it.

But, there are indications that "having it" doesn't give the level/length of protection that a vaccine does. Of course, that means believing just a little bit of medical science.

As far as I can tell, medical opinion remains to be to get the vaccine.

 

I think it's still a good idea to get the vaccine. It might keep you from getting a variant. Vaccines appear to provide longer protection.

Not tricky if you get the shot.

 

Not sure of your point there, but I prefer to use agreed upon definitions in discussions.

According to legal and medical definitions in use during the last century or so, what Pharma is offering with these mRNA cocktails do not meet those traditional definitions. Being a suspicious bastard, and being aware of the deceptive practices of Pharma over decades, I see a method to their madness, an ulterior motive.

 

Interesting thing about words, their meanings alter all the time. I am not really sure why this is such an issue for you. Are you against any and all change?

It is the medical/scientific field that defines what is a vaccine, thus they are the ones that would be the right party to change the definition as needed. For you to say they are not allowed or are wrong for doing so is pretty much a joke unless you are part of that community.