Another take on the vaccines

I'm an Orwell fan, and I've been following Big Pharma since the 70's. Orwell observed many things, including the propaganda tactic of "first, corrupt the language. What follows naturally is the corruption of thought processes." It's not rocket science, just propaganda techniques and human behavior.

No, change is inevitable, and I'm not against it. I accepted change likely before you were born.

The medical, scientific and legal fields defined "vaccine" about a century ago Darth. Are you not aware of that? Now, under cover of fraud and deception, Big Pharma and MSM want to change that definition. I understand you don't have a curious bone in your big body, but in my small body I have many curious bones.

Understanding the philosophies and techniques of Edward Bernays and Josef Goebbels, I'm curious as to why they insist upon changing the meaning of a word, when this is happening under cover of a massive fraud.

That would never cross your mind, but it has crossed my mind.

 

Yes they did define it a century ago, and in that time much has changed and thus the definition is changed to keep up with the times. This is common place and probably more so in the medical field than most.

Believing in every conspiracy theory does not make you curious, it makes you naïve.

Well, first off they have been calling this a vaccine for almost a decade now. When they started working on this technology they were calling it a vaccine. Maybe that was all part of the plan in your mind, that this whole "fraud" has been in the planning stages for decades.

There has been no massive fraud, you have fallen for a ruse.

You put way too much faith in humankind if you think they could do this and keep it a secret.

You think that believing in conspiracy theories makes you more wise and open minded, just like the flat earthers I talk with think about themselves since they have figured out the massive fraud in people believing the earth is round.

You are truly no different than them. you use the same tactics and the same phrases. All that changes is the topic.

 

YOU are the one ignoring science, not me.

 

not according to...............science.

 

That's not what I am suggesting. What I am suggesting is that government money is involved with regard to "number of covid infections/deaths". That means that places will purposely report higher numbers in order to receive more of that money.

 

My wife works for the VA, they do not get more money per COVID infections/death.

And also, you are still suggesting that doctors and nurses are lying to help their hospitals get more government money

 

You need to do better than making totally unsupported claims like that.

FEMA and others aren't perfect at supplying aid, but suggesting they are being manipulated by false data is something that you need to support with real evidence.

 

So going back to the original definition for vaccines, I guess anything later than the originatal, making everyone work as milkmaids for a month or so to provide everyone exposure to cowpox to immunize humans from smallpox without artificial vaccines!?

Every technology later than that is still under evaluation, and we need another 50 years to see if there are any possible of aftereffects, I guess?

Here, have $30 bottles of vitamin C and $100 bottle of fresh, concentrated thistledown to provide good immunity in the meantime!

 

Not true, you prefer to use the previous definition, not the current one.

 

It hasn't existed for a decade sir.

 

First, corrupt the language. What follows naturally is corruption of the thought processes.

You've reached that point Darth.

 

In 2013 the Obama Admin gave a grant to further the research into mRNA vaccines. So pretty damn close since it was not brand new when they did so.

 

The meaning of words evolving over time is not a corruption of the language.

If this is really all you have, then you should join up with the flat earthers, they have far more material than you

 

I was just pointing out that in my life time I never heard of getting vaccinated but still being a carrier of a disease. Booster shots usually would be necessary months or even a year from the initial injection. These rushed Covid "vaccines" are NOT meeting time honored and tested criteria, as you yourself just pointed out. This is not good!

 

You'd guess wrong. The man's points are valid.....that you can't logically or even rationally fault him is painfully obvious.

 

Your first assertion is wrong, as the time tested procedures and basis for creating vaccines has only been modified via improvements in refinements and technology. What these Covid treatments are experimental gene therapy, NOT vaccines in any traditional sense of the word.

 

Nothing came up. I kept looking around and I couldn't find it on his website.
https://garynull.com/
https://garynull.com/?s=covid+
https://garynull.com/garys-vax-articles/

Does anybody have a link?

 

The mRNA COVID vaccine itself is not any more gene altered than many other vaccines or products, "manufactured" the vaccine using chicken eggs or other methods.

My point remains that this claim is no more radical than all the technologies used to produce vaccines after the first "vaccine" produved by having people produce immunity by milking cows, as realized from observing young woman milk coys and being exposed by cowpox to produce smallpox immunity.

 

They are not gene therapy by any sense, that is just silly nonsense put out by the CT crowd.

The traditional meaning of a vaccine is something that protects you from a virus/disease.

 

It's much more complicated than you suggest, both posts.

Your knowledge of the Big Picture regarding mRNA vaccines and such is but a drop in the bucket compared to Dr. David E. Martin's knowledge. You won't dare listen to a word he says, and you will not spend 5 minutes examining the records of the US Patent Office.

Likely we both know why.

 

It is not good, and it is still more circumstantial evidence, joining the preponderance of the evidence, showing this event was planned, and is rife with fraud.

 

Forgive me but I find it impossible to take anything seriously from a guy that post about "Operation Covid".

I have looked at the patent office records and at what the CDC has done. What they have done by getting the patent was keep some company from doing so and keeping it from the rest of the world. What the CDC did was basically make it open source by keeping the patent but not stopping anyone from using the technology.

This conspiracy theory is just like all the rest, there is about 5% truth and 95% made up **** that cannot be shown to be true.

The idea that the entire ****ing world all conspired to lie about COVID is beyond stupid, and beyond something any reasonable person could believe.

 

I take it you have never heard of the flu vaccine since that is the case with it. One can be vaccinated and still get the flu and still be a carrier of the flu

 

I've never condemned you Darth, so I can't forgive you. You've committed no sin in my book.

You simply behave like so many others who are afraid to confront facts that threaten your worldview. It's OK dude.

FYI, your 'looked at' USPO records does not hold a candle to the detailed analysis, with the assistance of a proprietary software program called Linguistic Genomics, of Dr. David E. Martin. Don't give up your day job.

 

You continue to use the words and tactics of the flat earthers. You always have an excuse for why your view is the only possible correct one. First I did not look at the patent records, then when I did it is that I did not do an in-depth analysis of them.

9000 experts say one thing and you find the one guy that says something different and hold him up as if he was Moses himself speaking directly for god.

These are flat earth 101 tactics, you have learned well from your fellow conspiracy nuts.

Nothing will ever be enough until people bow down and tell you how amazing and smart you are.

By the way, my day job is as a data analyst, I can assure you I know far more about it than you or your good doctor.