What's Wrong With Voter ID?

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  1. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Same fake chart I see. Give it up.
     
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    Thats what they reported before shutting down the polls. Then they came up with another one that claimed over an 85% average turn out attached below. Given these numbers, for Biden to have a 38 points lead in MI he would have had to have got every democrat vote, every independent vote, and roughly one in four republican votes. That has the same statistical average of flipping a coin a thousand times coming up heads every time.
     

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    So you are for requiring an ID to register to vote, but against showing that same ID to cast your vote.
    Like that makes sense.
     
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    Lol, Its the chart that supports your own link. The final numbers out of MI.
    Given these numbers, for Biden to have a 38 points lead in MI he would have had to have got every democrat vote, every independent vote, and roughly one in four republican votes. About the same odds of flipping a coin a thousand times coming up heads every time.

    And here you are thinking Biden got 25% of the Republican vote and every other vote in MI. Just wow dude
     
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    Crimeny.

    What I'm saying is that we regularly identify ourselves securely without photo ID.

    I haven't stated I'm "for" or "against" anything.
     
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    Who is "they"?

    Are we discussing Milwaukee or Michigan?
     
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    A fake MI chart that claims it's from WI. That's a whole lot of faking going on.
     
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    So the chart I provided you, that supports the link you provided, is now a fake chart.
    Ok, what ever.
     
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    If you can't read the chart that clearly states Milwaukee, you either never saw it or are just being argumentative for nothing.
     
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    Nowhere in any chart I provided claims its from WI. Sorry, wrong poster.
     
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    Which time? Do we start with the delivery of the vote in Chicago in 1960? Do we include the dead folks of Memphis? How many do you actually want? If we just limit to what happened in Atlanta, The actual video of the ballot count absent poll watchers, the delivery of pallets of ballots, there are so many unresolved, uninvestigated proofs of this. Of course, lots of folks chose to ignore this, and it is likely that specifically for GA, those examples were the reason for their latest election legislation. But, feel free to demand more proof. We could discuss what happened in Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee, Las Vegas, and Maricopa county in AZ. And in every case, there are lots of observable inconsistencies, etc that can be offered as evidence for consideration.
     
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    You post said MI. (Post 52.)

    Probably a brain fart or typo. No big deal, I was simply clarifying.

    Again, I ask; where did the chart come from?
     
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    Why do people believe conspiracy theories?

    From...

    https://www.healthline.com/health/m...es#Why-do-people-believe-conspiracy-theories?

    1. "A 2017 research reviewTrusted Source found that people who buy into conspiracy theories believe they benefit socially and existentially from them."

    2. "Having information or knowledge that no one else has can naturally make us feel unique. A 2017 study indicates that people who believe in conspiracy theories need to feel unique by knowing “scarce information.”

    3. "On the other hand, some people value individual freedoms as a moral imperative. This may lessen their sense of responsibility toward collective concerns."

    Pretty good article if you wanted to read the entire thing.

    Oh BTW, your post is full of conspiracy theories.
     
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    The first chart was the reported votes right before the polls shut down. Then magically, all those out of reason numbers changed to their final claims which is currently reported by the state on their website.

    So for Biden to have these final reported numbers, he would have to get every single Dem vote, every single Independent vote, and 25% of the Repub vote. Not to mention we have over 88% voter turn out? In what reality does that play.

    I don't like Biden or Trump so lets not get confused. If Democrats can do it, so can Republicans. So how do you think this is going to play out in the future. We all just sold our souls over a presidential candidate no matter who you voted for. Nobody is being held accountable, nobody is offering any reasoning behind this, and at no time in history has this ever happened.

    We can all take our assumed partisan positions and stay divided (as wanted by the party in power) or we can demand better candidates and a secure voting requirement. The more we all argue and point fingers at each other, the more this government loves it. So who are the real idiots here?
    We the People.
     
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    Bing query: Milwaukee, Michigan

    Sorry, no results.

    You're sinking very very quickly. I suggested you give it up earlier. Oh well. My credibility is intact.
     
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    Where did the first chart come from?
     
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    Because 1/10 people don't have access to the documents needed to get a photo ID for voting. You can cause a lot of harm by failing to take into account that population.
     
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    Nothing at all is wrong with requiring proof of ID in order to vote.
     
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    It didn't come from anywhere. Its just a tabulation of their own reported votes prior to the polls being shut down. Whats more concerning is the final vote tally as supported by their own claims.

    What they claimed as a fair election isn't mathematically possible.
     
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    So we have over 350,000 nomadic US citizens wandering around the country that can't cash a check, get government help, have a bank account, get a job, buy a car, rent an apartment, who are all Democrats, that magically find their way to voting booths, but wouldn't be able to if an ID was required?

    But people walking here from Guatemala, who are not US citizens, crossing as Illegals have no problem getting a drivers license?

    Why does that not seem to make any sense?
     
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    What's Wrong With Voter ID?

    That's obvious. Voter fraud is harder with voter ID.
     
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    Well they're more likely not to be voting in the first place, so yeah basically.

    Though I can't remember if it's VEP or VAP.
     
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    So if these 350,000 nomadic US citizens wandering around the country aren't voting, then how are they being suppressed by requiring an ID to vote?
     
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    They're not really nomadic. They're more like they're undocumented.

    Because they're still citizens... who want to vote? And you're denying them the right to vote because of it?
     
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    So you think these people who can't cash a check, get government help, have a bank account, get a job, buy a car, rent an apartment, own a home, ride a bus, board a plane, all happen to be Democrats, living off the grid, are being suppressed because they currently vote in elections and an ID requirement would stop that?

    Are you really that easy of a sell? I mean, it would take most a huge amount of brainwashing to come to that conclusion.
    Or are you just pushing fake propaganda?
     
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