Worker Shortage Crisis Deepening

LOL there are 18 million people unemployed. They don't have "one full time job" that's providing them with a living wage, they have a POTUS that's paying them to sit idle. At the same time, your POTUS is encougaging illegal immigration, and flooding the US with cheap foreign laborers, When the available "lowly" jobs are filled, millions won't have the option to return to work period. Kamala has been lobbying corporations for weeks to outsource US jobs and investments. This is a coordinated effort to make more Americans dependant on Biden's nanny state ... so yes, that is a bad thing.

 

Uh no because the ones who are working are paying to support the ones who aren’t.

 

The problem is that not all businesses can afford the artificial wage increase. And if they can’t they’re going to have to close their doors. The ONLY businesses who can afford to pay those wages are the large corporations.

You’re going to murder small business.

 

Then you’re wrong. A natural raise in wages comes as a result of increased productivity. There is no increased productivity here. It’s just artificial wage increase because the libs don’t think people are getting paid enough.

 

Are you under the impression the republicans would have done so without pressure from the democrats? Lol get serious

 

No genius. If EVERYBODY is making a $15 minimum wage with no increase in productivity, ALL that’s going to happen is you’ve increased demand and decreased supply. Which means it is INEVITABLE that prices must increase. They will increase to the new equilibrium which will give those people making $15 an hour the same buying power OR LESS than when they were making $8 an hour.

For the love of god PLEASE take a basic economics class.

 

You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and are doing nothing but expressing an extreme ignorance about running a small business. Clearly you’ve never employed anyone in your life.

 

A natural raise in wages can come from a shortage of workers as well. When the well to choose from is smaller and there is more competition for each worker, wages go up. That is a natural thing and is far more often the cause of rising wages.

Of course they would have. The Repubs love buying votes just as much as the Dems.

 

But this is not a natural shortage of workers. It’s an artificial shortage of workers created by the government printing and handing out money to people to sit and home and do nothing. If there were an ACTUAL shortage of workers (ie too much productivity and not enough workers to do the work) then you would be right. The productivity would justify the increase in wages. But that’s not what’s happening.

We actually have a DECREASE in productivity and a forced artificial shortage in workers.

 

Of course it is! That's why I ask. And your inability to make an argument indicates it's beyond you also. Which is terrible, because you're the one trying to make... some sort of "point", based on it.

So, here's the bottom line: there are businesses struggling to find workers. And that's a good thing. Because they are businesses that can't pay a living wage. It would be great for the economy if people decided to take a hit and work for $8 an hour. But, using that "logic" you could argue that it would be even better for the economy if we re-instituted slavery at $0 an hour.

Both arguments disregard the fact that we are talking about people. Many of them with a family. People who have to work two jobs to get by. They are working 16 hours or more a day. I'm sure you don't care about these people. But the Constitution guarantees their right to happiness is equal to anybody working a 9 to 5 job.

So, next time, if you're going to try to make an argument, I suggest you take a minute and think about all the aspects involved. Especially when they are pointed out to you (like I did) Because anybody who just stands there and tries to make a case based on "everybody knows" is just going to make a fool of themselves.

Thanks for playing....

 

Yes but there won’t be enough jobs for all of those people because there won’t be enough businesses who can afford it. Not to mention you need even MORE jobs because the millions of self employed people who can’t afford the increased wages will close their doors, fire their workers and be looking for jobs themselves along with the workers whom they fired.

Furthermore do you think an employee who was making $7.00 an hour more than his peers at $15 an hour because he’s a better employee is going to accept being paid the same amount as the crappy employees whom he worked hard to out achieve? Of course not, he’s going to demand a raise too.

 

Biden: Worker shortage??? What worker shortage? I don't see no worker shortage!

 

I'm unclear on your post. Do you think D-run states are delaying re-opening in order for more work visas to be issued or because D-run states are not reopening, the lobby for work visas has increased?

 

You're analysis too much (but not entirely) comes from La-la Land. There are employers that pay starting wages of $50,000 and senior wages of $70,000 that have considerable significant difficulty getting workers to come or come back to work.

 

I have made a clear distinction between the two, a 2nd grader would understand the difference.

I have not spoken about pay at all. You are making this up in your head. All I have done was try and explain the difference in two events.

 

I googled "la la land" and there was nothing about workers not returning to work. No, I didn't really do that but I would like to know where you got that information about people not going back for those wages.

 

I think these D-run states see the expanded foreign visas stemming from the lock downs as a good thing, but I don't think they thought of it and is not behind (or at least a distant third place) their reason for the continuing lock downs. Their continued support of lock downs is really quite simple. Lock downs allowed their use of desired autocratic power, and they really like that..

 

Wait a minute! You haven't made a point... and you're already changing the subject!

When somebody derails their own thread, that's the clearest indication that the person opened the thread without so much as a pause to consider if the point they were trying to convey had any validity.

So... that's that. My point stands: Biiden is allowing people to not have to accept miserable wages. That's a great first step in throwing a wrench into the poverty cycle.

Now... let's see this about illegal immigration

Great! So the problem you posed on the OP is solved: no more worker shortage!

I have no idea what point you're trying to make. If they are worried about that, then let them take an $8 an hour job NOW.

I have no idea what you're talking about. What "dependency"? You didn't know that benefits are temporary?

Or are you saying that those receiving it aren't aware? If they aren't, they should find out! It's called "personal responsibility" Look it up! Personal Responsibility used to be a big thing in the GOP before they became the Party of Trump.

You REALLY need to start doing a bit of research before you start a thread!

 

Is there some reason you think expanded foreign visas is not a good thing?

 

The wage increase is not "artificial" (or shouldn't be). It's what a person working a full time job needs in order to support a minimum living standard without needing to work two jobs.

A business that cannot pay a living wage should not be in business.

100% false! I own a small business, and I pay (and have always paid) my employees enough so I don't have any problem finding workers. I network with many small business owners, and the few that complain about not being able to pay enough to find workers are businesses I know I do not want to relate to. The majority of small business owners are increasing their pay in accordance with the current conditions in the work market. And they are finding it's a good thing that their workers don't come in tired to work in the morning because they had to work the night shift at their second job.

Many companies went out of business when slavery was abolished too. Good riddance!

 

You can listen to business owner after business owner or check out the numerous job recruitment sites like Indeed or Zip Recruiter. I heard one guy on a call-in talk show who owned a portable toilet service and paid starting drivers $50,000 (after one month IIRC) who was having a terrible time hiring workers predominately because many preferred a little less money to loll around to more money for 40 hours a week of labor. I heard another guy who managed an over the road trucking company who said he can hire almost no drivers. He also said you can get on recruitment sites and see page after page of companies trying to hire drivers. Long haul truckers can easily make $80,000 a year, but the work is tough and strenuous.

 

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They have a better chance of infecting people with the flu virus than COVID. Plus the irreparable damage it has done to kids will take years, academically and the mental state, to recover from. All because there was that .04%. Especially after the data had shown that kids were not super spreaders and teachers had the vaccine available near the beginning of the distribution.

Again, only follow the science your overlords tell you to follow.

 

Artificially creating a shortage at the cost of taxpayer money, benefits who? Why do you seem to be against the idea that people should move forward monetarily on the basis of their own merit?

 

We have 3 positions we have been trying to fill over the last month and we have received a total of 3 applications. And these are clinical and finance positions. Normally we would have 50+ applications within the first 2 weeks of the postings. All this during a 6.4% unemployment.

 

There are always people paying those wages who have trouble filling positions. There are two positions we're trying to fill on my team that pay at the top of that range, which is decent for the area, but we've been trying to fill them for months. Some candidates aren't qualified enough and others are taking better offers elsewhere. I see no reason to think there's an increase in these problems at those salary levels due, in any way, to unemployment benefits.