Worker Shortage Crisis Deepening

I'll check that out.

I do know that has always been a problem for OTR drivers. It's not a job conducive to people with family obligations and other time constraints.

 

Honest question, are the positions ones that can be done remotely? We've lost candidates to companies in other states because so much can be done without actually going into the office any more. There's a lot of reason to think that low CoL areas are losing candidates to medium and high CoL areas because so many more jobs are open to remote workers now.

 

Do those positions require a license or certification? I'm not sure what has happened to people that have had licenses or certifications expire within the past 17 months. I imagine it's a logistical nightmare.

I posted a list of contributing factors here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...risis-deepening.588624/page-2#post-1072678822

 

What???? First time in my life I have seen anybody complaining that increased demand is bad for businesses!

Dear God!

Listen: NOBODY with a family can survive on $8 an hour (not here in Florida, and I don't think anywhere else in this country). So, sooner or later, they will HAVE to take a second job. If you ever had a supervisory role in a business you know that people with two jobs are much less (maybe less than half) as productive as people with one job.

Exactly! So minimum wage should ALWAYS be tied to the cost of living and adjusted every year. It's how it works in many other developed (and even underdeveloped) nations. Most definitely should be that way in the richest nation in the world.

 

If the foreign visas are used to fill jobs that Americans won't take because of the money governments are paying them to not work, then yes it is a bad thing. If it is just to bring in a cheaper labor pool - what the US Chamber of Commerce loves, even if illegals -- it is not a good thing.

 

If it were in my business (though nobody who works for me makes less than $20 per hour, and most over $25), I would increase the salary of those who deserve it. That would be no problem because, like you said in a previous post, demand will increase. But the main thing is that now EVERYBODY will be making a proper living wage.

 

You have explained the obvious difference. You have not made any argument to explain how that difference is of any relevance whatsoever.

And you won't. Because it's not!

 

And yet you are still confused by it. Weird.

If you are a business owner there is a world of difference in knowing there are people if you just pay them enough to knowing there is nobody no matter how much you pay them.

You are only looking at it from the view of the worker, not the other side

 

Is there a form of outsider employment you believe to be an asset and/or necessary measure?

 

My kids had a great time home with mom and dad for a year. I spent more time with my kids this year than my parents probably did with me my whole life combined.

 

Lock downs allowed to save lives when lock downs were warranted. D-states today are reopening. And they are doing that following scientific guidelines. Which means that the number of people who die, because of the reopening, is as low as is humanly possible. Compare that to R states that are, either still with heavy restrictions, or are lifting them without the least consideration to how many people die!

The saddest case is Florida, a state with sub-tropical climate where the number of dead should have gone to zero as soon as the weather starting warming up a long time ago. But is still among the worst (and always has been) thanks to a brain-dead Republican governor and State Congress.

 

I AM a business owner. You, obviously, are not. But that doesn't mean that only business owners can opine. However, not looking at it from the point of view of the worker, which is one of your mistakes (and the mistake many unqualified business owners make), is equivalent to separating yourself from reality. Most people confuse small businesses with sweat shops. Businesses that struggle to pay their workers minimum wage should not be in business. Period! I network with many business owners. I have met only a small minority that are like that. And they shut down very quickly. Even before this was happening.

I have never paid them a non-living wage in my business, but I have seen businesses that do that. There are so many shortcomings for the business that I can't even begin to tell you. These are people who work two jobs and, therefore, are not efficient in either of them. They frequently change jobs, so any training they received or experience they attained is lost. You spend a lot of time hiring, training and dealing with unhappy people.

I could go on and on... to why $8 is not good for the business. Tt might be more difficult for somebody who has never run a proper business to understand, I'm sure.

Just be aware of one thing: yes! some small businesses could close because of this. But that's a good thing. Those that remain open will be the ones that are properly managed, and where the workers are happy. It's the kind of business you WANT to buy from. Believe me: you do not want to buy from or use the services of a business that doesn't pay enough for the workers to make a living!

 

You can always tell those that always punched a time clock SO lets get this strait, lack of hand make life better for the understaffed employers and those BUSTING their ass to keep the business afloat and keep their jobs because BiduhM economics makes laying around playing video games a career choice..

God love you Bro, how you explain this to people on the dole will be a miracle, good luck!

 

This problem is going to fade away as we get out of this pandemic. While working at the office has already changed, it may take more time to return to a more full workforce, the ending of the unemployment benefits due to the pandemic will run out.

I don't feel this is a critical problem.

 

I agree with the first part, but haven't a clue what you or who you were trying to please with the last part of it

 

Bro you’re being completely unrealistic and unreasonable.

Let’s take areas of the country that aren’t developed insofar as business development. These very rural areas. Most of them have a local small grocery store not name brand or anything. Those people can’t afford to pay $15 an hour to a grocery stocker and a cashier. So okay great you say they don’t deserve to be in business.

So now the 2 stockers and 2 cashiers they employed are out of a job, the small mom and pop owners are now out of a job, they’re all looking for jobs now in an area that doesn’t have them and to top it all off their only grocery store for miles and miles no longer exists.

So what are they supposed to do? Call Walmart to beg them to put a store in a town with 1,000 people?

 

You keep trying to make this into me being against paying workers a good wage, and I am not really sure why that is?

Nothing I have posted would indicate that is my view or that I do not think companies should pay their workers a real wage.

I think my post early in the thread show my views are just the opposite.

 

I never post to please anyone, I leave that to folks like you.

I post my views and do not give a flying **** who likes them and who does not.

 

Why do people still think that it's a good argument to use things like some small store in a rural area to set the living standard for thousands of, for example, single mothers struggling to support their family?

If you find some... town... in the middle of the desert, with only one store. And that it would be closed because a $15 an hour would pose too much of a hardship.... then fix THAT. Make an exception, subsidize it for the public good.... whatever. But don't go telling thousands of teenagers all over the country who got their GF pregnant, and just want to do the right thing that they need to drop out of school and work two jobs, because there is this tiny town where the General Store might struggle to get somebody to hire.

This is about ridding this country of poverty. I don't know how many businesses had to shut down when slavery was abolished... but we adapt!

 

No what’s going to happen is you’re going to kill the VAST majority of small businesses as well as startups.

Which means that EVERY market sector is going to be dominated by very small cabals of massive companies who can afford the wages.

 

Because you won't specify what your point is. Last time I saw you making anything even resembling a point was when you said that people not wanting to work for less than a living wage was a problem. If you now want to walk back what you said. ... fine. As well you should. Because it's not a problem. It's a step forward in the struggle to eliminate poverty.

 

It is a problem when the country is adding to the national debt our kids and grandkids have to deal with paying these people to sit at home.

 

Not sure how it is where you live, but around here the non-chains pay better than the chains. It is not like WalMart or Target are blowing out the wages.

 

And you know this because of some "gut feeling" you have. Not because you have any actual reason to believe it, since you give none, but you just have it... ingrained... in your mind.

Who could argue against a "hunch"?

Anyway... thanks for trying.

 

They’re not but they can afford to whereas the non-chains can’t for the most part.