Which of the following cases should be granted an abortion

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Which of the following cases should be granted an abortion

  1. 26 year old 17 weeks pregnant with a partial miscarriage - foetus retained has heartbea

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    94.1%
  2. 11 year year old pregnant by grandmothers boyfriend 20 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  3. Mother of four 2 disabled children husband lost his job 8 weeks pregnant

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    94.1%
  4. 17 year old homeless girl 10 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  5. A 36 year old woman 28 weeks pregnant foetus diagnosed with anencephaly

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    No doubt. The spoiled First Worlder is never going to find it an appealing proposition.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    If you think the feelings of grown women outweigh the health of an innocent infant, you and I don't live on the planet.
     
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    I see you and your friend like to compare women to animals...I'm not surprised..
     
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    If you don't understand cause and effect, you need to find out why you stopped maturing at age 8. Choose the action ... choose the consequences. We learn that as children. It's fundamental.

    Further .. it's your claim that women don't understand the connection - somehow thinking they're unrelated.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    But the life and health of a woman means nothing to you....how disgusting...

    Gee, no misogyny here , folks! :roll:


    There are no "infants" we're discussing abortion...and you and I are not on the same planet, I'm on the real one ...not the fairy Land of your dreams...
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    So you don't know the difference between "shagging" and pregnancy" ??? Wow....get thee a book on it...

    Oh, now you changed it to "cause and effect'...before you thought they were the same thing...I am so glad you learned something!



    :) Ooooh ,I love the sound of a desperate, stumped Anti-Choicer:)


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    GLAD YOU ARE PRO-CHOICE :)

    That's what women do, CHOOSE the consequences !!! :)



    No, that would be your "Floundering in Desperation" interpretation....
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    idk, ask a Republican. I would totally support taking some public funds from the military (and/or the DEA and/or the ATF while we're at it) and shifting them to help encentivize and support alternatives to abortion.
     
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    ...and exactly when will that happen? Never.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It sounds like you don't think We The People have very much say in how we're governed. Careful, you might get labelled a conspiracy theorist ;)
     
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    How- increase funding to programs that support raising and/or adopting children instead of aborting them.

    Why- humans are valuable.

    Anything we put in it, from money to social perception.

    LOL no. I already stated it should be their choice. I merely support creating incentives to influence their choice. They should still be able to do as they will.
     
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    Such as?
    I never said that.
     
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    Government mandated population control is force.

    No.

    Yeah.
     
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    Not ALL and my link was from the CDC but I would be happy to link to any EBP site you would like to name. Even IF your contention were true how do you intend to ensure women do the right thing the entire pregnancy? Are you going to monitor all women’s dietary intake? After all the most dangerous time for a foetus as far as exposure to and affect by teratogenic Substances is in the first few weeks of life - often before the woman is pregnant
     
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    If you think an embryo is an infant, you have some serious issues with both perception as well as with conceptualisation. And if you think the feelings of an undeveloped human being in the form of protoplasm (that probably cannot feel) outweighs a fully developed and fully grown, adult woman, you do not live in reality.
     
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    Ooops! Don’t post late at night - I meant that often the teratogenic effects of diet etc occur before the woman knows she is pregnant
     
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    This is one of the “tricks” of the anti choice crowd - deliberately conflate conceptus with infant. Push the idea that a fertilised egg is the same as a fully developed baby
     
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    Have you done the math on adoption? Do it sometime - look up the number of abortions per year and then look up the number of people awaiting adoption and work out how soon you would flood the market. This is why in countries where abortions are illegal the orphanages are overflowing, babies are abandoned in garbage cans or thrown down wells and children even toddlers are Scrabbling for food in garbage dumps
     
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    ((((Sigh))j) yeah the Catholic Church thought they could get away with doing that too - the abuse that the children in care suffered is legendary.
     
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    Yep

    Pretty amazing that the states with the most restrictive laws on abortion coincide with those states with the least support for child welfare
     
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    As I said in another post - your way has been tried and it was an abysmal failure
     
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    I'm pro-choice, you ######.

    But carry on digging that hole with your 'women don't understand the link between sex and pregnancy' shovel. At least until you reach a point where begin to see some light, and recognise the essential misogyny of your position. It's possible you'll never reach that place, but I live in hope.
     
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    My way has never been tried in the First World. We are still subject to the awful abuses of the Welfare State.
     
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    We're talking about preventable neural tube defects, which impact the survival of the child extra utero.
     
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    IF? Folate is a standard 'essential' before and during pregnancy. It's considered essential for prevention of neural tube defects. Are you genuinely unaware of this?

    Read that again ..... a folate rich diet is important BEFORE and after conception.
     
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    Such as anything she might be responsible for. Back the Mercedes into a parked car at the mall. Forgetting to pay the power bill in winter. Agreeing to mate while fertile. Pick any woman you know and consider if she's ever done something stupid. If not, then I congratulate you for knowing perfect females.

    You didn't have to say it. The heavy HEAVY resistance to the idea that grown women choose to risk a pregnancy, reveals a preference to infantalise women to the point they won't be held responsible for their choices. It's the same ****ing BS we see from paternalistic racists.
     
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