Which of the following cases should be granted an abortion

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Which of the following cases should be granted an abortion

  1. 26 year old 17 weeks pregnant with a partial miscarriage - foetus retained has heartbea

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  2. 11 year year old pregnant by grandmothers boyfriend 20 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  3. Mother of four 2 disabled children husband lost his job 8 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  4. 17 year old homeless girl 10 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  5. A 36 year old woman 28 weeks pregnant foetus diagnosed with anencephaly

    17 vote(s)
    100.0%
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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Theres a lot of people who would adopt but for the $40K (on average) cost associated with it. It shouldn't cost that much. If adoption were more affordible, more people would do it.
     
  2. FoxHastings

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    Well, you appear to be NOW ..after I pointed out what you said in your post:

    YOU: ""Choose the action ... choose the consequences"""
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    ME: ""GLAD YOU ARE PRO-CHOICE :)

    That's what women do, CHOOSE the consequences !!! :)"""



    You keep claiming I said that but have NEVER PROVEN I DID.


    I noticed you claim other poster say things that they never said...proving you have no point and have to make things up...


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    :) You live in a fairyland of made up claims and a whole boatload of misogyny.....I have seen other Anti-choicers who had disdain for women but you're on the top..
     
  3. FoxHastings

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    Well, it isn't....and neither is pregnancy and childbirth for many women, hence, abortions...
     
  4. FoxHastings

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    Just this week I learned that the Catholic Church tortured and murdered indigenous students of church run schools in Canada from the 19th century up until 1969.....and those EVIL Scums DARE to tell women they're evil if they get an abortion...they are filth..
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are they alive?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thus my aforementioned proposition to incentivise it by redirecting funding to support it.
     
  7. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    A more provocative question would be should a woman be "granted" the right to abort a healthy fetus because of it's sex?
     
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  8. FoxHastings

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    It's a good idea...that hasn't happened in 10,000 years...
     
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    Just this week I learned that the Catholic Church tortured and murdered indigenous students of church run schools in Canada from the 19th century up until 1969...
     
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    Glad you finally agree women aren't perfect (nor do they have to be)....but why do you think all women drive Mercedes?
     
  11. Bowerbird

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    Probably believes the joke about “Why do Blondes drive BMWs?”
    Because it the only car they can spell:p
     
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    And yet the SAME funding put into programs for sex education and contraception would prevent far more abortions because what better way to stop women ending unwanted pregnancies that to get rid of unwanted pregnancies?
     
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    Decent social security for single mothers would have the same effect.
     
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    And that is only the top of the iceberg watch the film Philomena with Judy Dench - what the church did in not just Ireland but many places was so abusive.
     
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    Not to the same extent because a significant proportion of women having abortions actually already have children

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    Sounds provocative. Again, who has the right to know the thoughts behind her decision, or even her decision?
     
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    And no one has the right to make the decision for her....
     
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    And that was the real point to the thread. It is easy to spit backache Nd say “Oh Well she should not have gotten pregnant in the first place” but the real reasons women have abortions are complex and complicated and are far more life impacting than many of the anti choices realise
     
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    Bit of a dodge. Suppose she announced the reason for her abortion, that it was of the wrong sex?
     
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    A little secret... Black children and disabled children are $10 to $15K cheaper.
     
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    Someone has to make these calls. I think the pregnant woman is in the best place to understand the complexities involved in weighing all aspects including the family dynamics, the economics, the health concerns etc. She is more likely to see the whole picture and how all these pieces will fit together for success or failure.
     
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    Are you aware of what the meaning of "conflict of interest" is?
     
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    Yes. Until you can find someone who knows more about what situation this fetus inside will be borne into, what real support system there will be, and who has a better idea of the realistic economic and physical challenges that will lay ahead for him and everyone else affected, this woman is the best steward, the best advocate and best capable of deciding whether to bring this fetus to term. It sure as hell is not some govt agency that is best suited. Sometimes that answer will be not to your liking. That's just too bad for you.
     
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    Um... You mean like a medical expert? Or a bioethicist? Or special guidance counselors who are specially trained and have experience to help women navigate this process?

    Aborting because of the future life circumstances you expect the child might be born into seems pretty harsh.


    How about this? If someone else steps up to the plate and signs a contract agreeing to adopt, that woman shouldn't abort.

    They could place the women on a registry (with her picture and relevant information) and if no one offers to adopt within one week, she can abort.

    I think that proposal would neutralize your "care of the child after birth" objection.

    I don't know how pro-choicers would feel about white women and more attractive looking women not being able to abort tho...
     
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