Well Biden now has his own Saigon to his name

Probably. But al-Qaeda was plotting. Are you suggesting carpet bombing from a distance?

 

I'll admit I'm a bit torn about how you guys are leaving. The plan seems to be "US safety first - whatever happens to Afghanistan beyond that is on Afghanistan."

What do you suggest that Biden should do differently?

 

We should just make Afghanistan a US State and make trump the governor. I would PAY to watch that show!!! LOL!

You can check out but you can never leave.

 

This would be a new report by you had you first got the facts.

If you really want a full understanding read 2 books. They are well written.

We did not install their government. They selected the same system used in England.
We never would have installed that were we doing it.

An American Soldier by the commander of the two invasions; Afghanistan plus Iraq. Actually calling Afghanistan an invasion is not correct. Franks supplied t o the Afghanis who themselves won their own war. They removed the Taliban along wit h Al Qaeda.
A General Speaks out will add more to this discussion. By General DeLong. Excellent books.

Americans that relied on the media do not know the true story.

 

Everyone is. Beyond what happens to the country now, we have a great deal of blood and treasure invested in securing peace. But we can't stay there forever. And they aren't willing to defend their own country.

 

Afghanistan had the best army when General Tommy Franks was our commander.
Biden could save this. But he is that incompetent he will lose it to the Taliban.

 

If Biden made some kind of radical policy aboutface and a whole lot of things went wrong, then you probably could blame him as an individual. You really need to look beyond your own partisan b******* sometimes you know?

 

But Biden promised us. Don't worry folks, Afghanistan can't lose they have an army of 300,000 so says Biden.
Biden by taking charge is going to wear this like a noose.

 

No he didn't.

I don't even need to fact check you anymore. LOL! You never report anything accurately. EVER

 

Look, according to American democrats, Biden is not liable. Biden is not to account for any of his own actions.
I know that drill.

I suggest you quit attacking me and focus on the man who has his own Saigon to his name.
I also suggest you read some short remarks by CENTCOM

Note they do not blame Trump.
https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/?Page=2

 

I saw a video where Biden said that.

Why are you ultra partisan. I even handed over to you the Centcom comments on this They do not blame Trump.

https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/?Page=2

 

Okay, I actually meant strategic bombing. I tossed in that phrase a little carelessly. This would be hands off.

 

Centcom sent in Bombers. I wish you would read what they say.

 

You're talking nonsense.

When Biden was sworn in, there were only 2500 troops left in Afghanistan.

There were 15,000 in October 2019....

 

When Biden was sworn in, the Afghanis owned the country, not Pakistan's Taliban.

 

This is not true.

When Biden was sworn in, the Taliban already controlled half the country.

Only the big cities remained to be invaded.

Why do you think Pomeo agreed to negotiate with them?

 

Nice to know you don't disagree with him.

 

I regret voting for Bush. He turned out to be horrible as a president. I actually rate him as bad as Obama.

 

Okay, that was a different conversation.

I'm sorry the US is leaving Afghanistan. You've done a lot more than most countries (But in fairness you were the main target too)

 

BIDEN’S SHAMEFUL AFGHANISTAN PULLOUT

"In July, when Joe Biden announced that he would be pulling the U.S. completely out of Afghanistan, he said: “The likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely.” Biden isn’t bright. He never has been. "

It took 3 years for Jimma Carter's presidency to implode.

 

We knew this day would come the moment GWB started his ill-fated invasion. I bet, though, that you voted happily for GWB and supported his invasion, didn't you?

So, if you want to bring up Saigon, we should have learned from it. But GWB didn't, with his hubris to think that this time would be different and we could win hearts and minds. Newsflash: A foreign invader will always be seen as a foreign invader and illegitimate occupying force, no matter how good the intentions.

It is always a puzzle to me how RWers hate any control of themselves by their own government, but they LOVE that same government controlling whole other nations.

 

What do you suggest that he should have done differently and what do you suggest he should do from here?

 

I've never understood that myself. It's coming up quite a bit regarding this whole anti-mask/anti-vax thing. They want to tell women what she can do with a life growing inside her (which is a permanent decision in either direction) but won't wear masks (temporary inconvenience) or get vaccinated (hit or miss on that one, but you get my point).

 

Biden ignored his military ‘experts’.

 

Ah, the almighty al-Qaeda...with nary a warplane, warship, armored battalion, pot to piss in nor window to toss it out...our homegrown gang-bangers are more of a daily threat to American lives than that collection of Quran-thumpin' schmucks could ever hope to be.