Well Biden now has his own Saigon to his name

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you understand why Biden is busy losing this war?
     
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    Boo hoo for Afghanistan. :rolleyes:

    Don't care.

    Your #1 point is an exaggeration. Stopping one oil pipeline is not "quit on Canada". Yes, it was a stupid move by Biden. But lets stop the exaggerations. I've had enough of that with the Dems and their media allies smearing Trump by exaggerating even the smallest of things.

    Your #2 point.....Can't disagree there.

    As for the ME and all related countries....Pull out of them, with the exception of Israel. The rest...pull out. Now.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct. When you slip slide your foot around or select the wrong troops, you lose. Biden bragged that Afghanistan has 300,000 troops and no way would the Taliban win.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is nothing wrong with not caring about Afghanistan.
    My point with Canada is he tried to damage their economy plus our own economy. What do you believe he supports in Canada?

    Don't you believe Biden prides himself on losing?
     
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    Ahhh, you just moved the goal posts in your own thread. Well done!
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about cause the Taliban to lose?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which goal post moved under Trump? We know Biden has to enjoy losing.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    America defeated Germany in 1945 yet we still have 40,000 troops there. We must keep the Nazis pinned down I guess.
    So in Afghanistan Biden is fleeing? The world is watching Biden flee a field of action.
    Some say why are we there?
    Well for about the reason we are in Germany and Japan and Korea.

    How fast can Biden flee Korea?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The red dots with the circle are what the Taliban has.
    This is sad and we could have prevented it. But Biden is president.

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The US did not invade.
    Franks plan was vastly different.
    We took out the Taliban and in all of the whole country we had special forces of about 1000 men.
    Those 1000 men never could have taken out the Taliban.
    Afghanistan has some Taliban Supporters. I believe the Women do not support them. Their kids less likely to support them. It has been 20 years since the Taliban owned the country. Biden in his feeble manner of leading bragged the Taliban can't whip the current troops of Afghanistan numbering 300,000. Well Biden is wrong.

    So how did Franks win.

    By paying the natives to fight. And they had leaders able and willing to fight. And Franks poured pallets of Cash into that country. Franks fed the people. Franks did it properly.

    Some think the Taliban were not defeated. They were defeated as were the Nazis in Germany.
    They fled Afghanistan.

    Some poster alleges I lied about Biden bragging about them having 300,000 able troops.

    Watch him brag.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you say Biden is a follower, not a leader. Very interesting observation.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FDR lost that many men in one day, often.
    As I have said time after time, if Biden can be supported, you will do it. If Trump could have been supported, nope, not now.

    Biden bragged they have a 300,000 man army vs only 75,000. When Bush beat them, those Taliban were gone. Ran away.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I may have missed it if you went against me previously but I do not recall ripping you a new one in our past exchanges.
    I am always open to discussion with no taunts or insults.
    I believe that the Canada pipe was important to Canada plus the USA. I do not recall Canada being pleased Biden blocked them.
    If you think Canada was pleased, why is that?

    Frankly the case for pulling out of Afghanistan can be made for us pulling out of England, out of Germany, out of Japan, out of Korea, to say it fast, only have troops in America.

    Democrats cross their fingers that you and I will turn on each other. PM me when you feel a need to kick my ass.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He said get our guys out. Did not mention bombing.
    I replied on this fine Saturday the 14th that carpet bombing is ancient technology. We have smart munitions now.
    I also said we did not need to lose. Biden himself brags he supported the war. Said we did our mission.
    Frankly our intelligence is very good. I do not accept Biden believed the Taliban were not a powerful force. His message to America was don't worry, they have 300,000 to only 75,000 so can't beat the troops of Afghanistan.
    Biden might be old but he has younger experts.

    We have raised our hackles that this man is no leader and will get us into a lot of trouble. North Korea must be licking their chops now.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Compare it to FDR and the Battle of the Bulge. FDR would not have ran away like we did.
    Sure Hitler had a massive troop surge, FDR did not quit.
     
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    I doubt that China would have quit.
    Putin is too smart to wage wars like that.
    Most Americans did not study the way General Franks won his war there.
    I put in time studying how General Franks beat the Taliban. His way was use the Afgfhanis. And give them air power to nail them.
    Biden sent at last report 2 B-52s over to impress the Taliban. Did not bomb them.
    Seems two airplanes did not impress the Taliban at all.

    Pay less attention to your media and more to sites of the Department of defense. Check what CENTCOM says.
     
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    I agree that Biden is not one bit like FDR in war fighting. Truman killed the idea of defeating North Korea when he fired MacArthur. Mac understood war.

    Biden bragged a month ago that Afghanistan with it's 300,000 man army would defeat the Taliban who he said only has 75,000.

    Why did our country allow the Taliban to create that large of an Army?
    Trump should have also headed this off. Trump is not going to be called not guilty by me.
    Biden is the father of this defeat by claiming the Taliban were too weak and also by failure to use air power on the Taliban.

    Trouble is here in America, the media is in full blown support and defense of Biden. As they attacked Trump, they now defend Biden.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that you criticizing Biden? Say it to me please.

    The Taliban indoctrinates as good as Biden does to this country.

    CENTCOM alleges they shipped out the good stuff and that other stuff is destroyed.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again since it is so true. That my friends is called accurate.
     
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    Read my post carefully or you can't actually address it without side stepping, here it is;
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is too soon to claim they refused to defend their own country. Our media is not up to the job as to reporting correctly.

    If the Taliban planted in key jobs, their men, it undermines the regular forces.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you blamed me for YOU moving the goal posts.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When Biden causes the defeat, it will be studied at the war colleges.

    We have war planes. Biden sent over 2 B-52's just for show. They did not bomb per CENTCOM.
     
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    Nah, that a self serving mischaracterization of my post, intentional or not. Trump set things in motion and Biden is capitalizing on it's now or later. America pulls out as they should, it could never have been pretty, never. Tons of people are going to die in Afghanistan but the Afghan government and military simply don't have the will to fight the Taliban.
     
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    Still trying to create that elusive strawman are you? Seems like a poor strategy.
     

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