There is something I'm not understanding about the right wing Afghanistan narrative...

If you look up the definition of a "vaccine" one key aspect is it provides immunity. Let me know when it does and I'll mull over the idea of getting it.

 

Biden has been dragged far left. Socialism is here and we have to stop it.

 

I don't care if you get it or not. As they say: "You can bring your horse to the water but you can't make him drink!"

 

Good to know you respect others choices...
Keep me updated on when it meets the definition of an actual vaccine. One would think with well over half the planet vaccinated (like you had claimed) this thing would go extinct!

 

Unfortunately, "herd immunity" takes much more than half the planet vaccinated, as you probably know, now that you finally found the way to get solid information.

 

You claimed that troops were evacuated and 10 thousand Americans were left behind. What the hell does anything that happened weeks before the evacuation have to do with that.

Look. You're only making yourself look worse by trying to make up these excuses. Why don't you simply admit you were wrong?

 

Sure, by fact checking your false claim....

As to the red: Looks like science is still speculating and it can be either through prior infection or vaccination, not JUST vaccination, so you learned even more new things today...And what Fauci says, has proven unreliable....

Is herd immunity closer than we think? | AAMC
https://www.aamc.org › news-insights › herd-immunity...

What is herd immunity?
Herd immunity occurs when a significant portion of a population achieves immunity to a disease, either through prior infection or vaccination, so that the disease is unable to spread from person to person. The percentage of the population that must have immunity in order to achieve that goal varies depending on how contagious the disease is.

For instance, measles is highly contagious — so much so that 95% of the population must be immunized in order to stamp out the disease, according to the World Health Organization. For polio, the figure is 80%.

Since COVID-19 is a brand-new disease, no one quite knows what level of immunity might be required to stop SARS-CoV-2 from spreading. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci, MD, recently stated that he thinks that 70% to 85% of the population might need to be immune before the coronavirus is effectively contained.

Alessandro Sette, Dr.Biol.Sci, an immunologist at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology in California whose lab has conducted extensive research into the immune response to the virus, agrees. “I would say 85% is a reasonable point of view and a goal to shoot for,” he says. “And then we would be pleased if it turns out that getting infections down is reached before that.”

 

Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. NOBODY else. Though, from that group, the only one who would probably not accept responsibility is Trump.

There was no way to avoid a messy withdrawal. I'm happy Biden had the guts to take us out of there. Regarding Afghanistan, he's the only one of the four who put the interest of his country before his own political aspirations. He'll take a political hit. Fox will be airing the video of Afghans chasing the cargo jet for decades to come. But he's the one who got us out.

 

Allowing so many weapons to fall into enemy hands was ENTIRELY avoidable.

 

No he wasn't. He had to say what he had to say to try to keep the Afghan army from just surrendering to the Taliban without a fight. Obviously they didn't believe it either because they surrendered without a fight just the same.

 

The vaccines are effective in reducing infections, and then hospitalizations and deaths of those vaccinated who become infected. Given the limited side effects of the vaccine, taking it is a good bet for the individual.

 

Consider yourself updated: they are vaccines.

 

IMHO, it's the Right-Wing gas that will, well not disappear, need to find something else to criticize President Biden for. That IS their platform for 22 and 24, they're hanging it ALL on discrediting President Biden. Their gas stench will be with U.S. for ... ever. They have nothing to offer but critcisim and divisiveness.

Afghanistan has reached it's centuries old staitus. Our government couldn't believe that after spending 83 Billion Dollars on equiping and training the Afghan's that they wouldn't at least try to defend themselves. But as so many have pointed out they obviously didn't see any point in dragging out the inevitable, at what cost? Much easier to just ... NOT.

Americans hold dear our freedom and way of life, it's a mistake, that was THE mistake we made in Afghanistan, to think other people do.

To bad for tRumpism that this happened now instead of closer to the elections.

 

Pentagon Spokesperson John Kirby Says There Are Thousands of Americans Still in Afghanistan
There are thousands of Americans still trapped in Afghanistan amid the Taliban takeover of Kabul, a Pentagon spokesperson said Tuesday. John Kirby, the press secretary for the Department of Defense, told CNN's New Day host John Berman that there could be anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 U.S. citizens near Afghanistan's capital.
https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-s...thousands-americans-still-afghanistan-1620144

So according to you, John Kirby is lying and anyone making that claim from the Pentagon or pointing Pentagon claims to you doesn't prove anything to you.
Got it.

And you thought the troops were evacuated weeks before the evacuation? How can anyone be so out of touch with the pentagon briefings and every media claim that has been the forefront of the news for a week now?

So you know nothing about Americans trapped in Kabul. According to you, nobody has proved that.
You know nothing about the U.S. abandoning Bagram Airfield July 3rd without notifying the base’s commander, or what benefit that air support would provide
You know nothing about the 2500 troops on location, the additional 1000 troops sent to help with the evacuation, or the troops and embassy officials evacuating to the commercial airport of Kabul
You know nothing about our Troops ordered to stay at the airport while German, Britain, and French special forces are going door to door to get their people out
You know nothing about the additional troops over and above what is already there being sent because the Taliban took over the city.

And you have provided NOTHING to dispute ANYTHING you have been provided, You have a host of links you were provided to verify these claims yet you can't find a single MSM, Pentagon, or US ally supporting anything you claim. That speaks for itself.

So are you going to do what you always do, pick out one sentence and use your normal word smithing to make a fake claim, or are you going to act like an adult and provide ANYTHING that disputes what I provided.

I (and everyone else) already know that answer.

 

Biden is discrediting himself. High inflation, wild "infrastructure" wasteful spending, COVID melodrama, open borders, and now Afghanistan.

 

So you say ...
... have said
... and will keep saying.

Because that's ALL you've got to get a Republican elected, no policy ...
... no pricipal
... no nothing of substance.

You have to latch on to criticism and divisiveness, that's all U.S. have had from your side for a generation now.

 

So you don't know what OWS was. Without OWS, it doesn't matter how fast Pfiser came up with a vaccine. They wouldn't be administering in the US for another 5 years without OWS.
You should know what OWS is before making claims like that.

 

Dude, Biden literally ran on I Am Not Trump. He hid in a basement without a platform, and what little he promised, he’s failed to deliver. Which was mostly free stuff.

 

I voted for Biden. His Afghanistan exit dishonored our country.

 

Armchair quarterbacking -- that is what you are doing. You know squat except for the narrative being fed to you from your right-wing rags.

 

it is understandable that this would confuse you. After all, you have said you limit yourself to what you considerable reliable sources. Translate: Liberal sources. So, you do not have all the facts.

I will try to help you with that. Even though it won't help.

In Feb 2020, President Trump negotiated an agreement with the Taliban and the Afghanistan Government. The two sides agreed to share power, and the US agreed to withdrawal their forces in May 2021. When Biden took office, he suspended the Agreement negotiated by President Trump. Biden then waited until April 2021 to announce a withdrawal date of 9/11. That is nearly three and a half months beyond the negotiated date. Since the new date had not been negotiated, the Taliban considered it a renigging of the original agreement, and that all bets were off.

As a result, the Taliban felt no remorse in moving in to fill the vacuum caused by the withdrawing US Troops, and the Afghanistan Government fled the country.

Now, all that having been said, I personally believe Biden has been set up for the fall. Since the withdrawl began, he has been sequestered in either Delaware or Camp David. His Friday news conference proves he is being fed false information. Ask yourself, why? Why is he being kept outside the Whitehouse when so many Americans, and those the supposed the US Mission in Afghanistan, lives are at stake? Is Biden really this clueless, or are the powers to be controlling the information to him?

The most compelling question: What is the end game? Biden sent an additional 6,000 troops into Afghanistan to aide in the withdrawl. It has been estimated that there are 15,000 American family members, and more then 20,000 Afghanistan nationals that supported the US Mission. Assuming that the 6,000 troops are all the US Military to be evacuated, that sill leaves 41,000 to be evacuated. From August 15 until August 19, the US evacuated 2700. The media reported that planes we're leaving less then half full. On the 20th they claimed to have evacuated 3,000 on that one day. If everything holds course, and we can get out 3,000 every day, then we will still be one day shy of meetings the mark. If you think that they can increase flights, you'll need to consider several factors. First the amount of airlift capacity. The US is currently limited to military assets. All NATO countries are conducting their own withdrawals at the same time at the same airport. Finally, that airport is being controlled by the Taliban.

I expect Biden to be offered the Nixon choice. Resign or impeachment.

 

Actually, these criticisms can be found in volume at the Washington Post and New York Times. Neither is a right wing rag.

 

And is the story over? No, it's still ongoing.

 

The US exit has already dishonored our country. That is over.

 

The mRNA vaccines are not introducing SARS-CoV-2 into our bodies.