There is something I'm not understanding about the right wing Afghanistan narrative...

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  1. Lucifer

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    What part of this is an ongoing story that you do not get? Stop being such a partisan hack. You want to jump on Biden because you're a Trump fan. That's all I need to know where you are coming from. Be honest about that!
     
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    The world is jumping on Biden for his stupidity in dealing with this.
     
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    There is NOTHING partisan about those questions. For you to state that tells us a whole lot about you. Independents easily answer those questions. The only people that can't are Leftists that put power and control over everything else.

    Who else wants to claim that these are "partisan questions"?

    Would you pull out your military before your citizens?

    Would you leave your allies in the dark and vulnerable?

    Let's expose everyone that refuses to answer them.
     
  4. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    :deadhorse:

    You can't stand to wait till the end of the month, can you? Not surprised at your partisan hysteria.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This has NOTHING to do with the end of the month. In a military withdraw in hostile lands....

    Would you pull out your military before your citizens?

    Would you leave your allies in the dark and vulnerable?

    Party doesn't matter here. You claiming it does is quite amazing. You see everything through Leftist lenses. You may want to check the mirror when you claim others have "partisan hysteria". You are the one dodging questions, because you think the answer hurts "your side". I answered your question immediately and you dodge and dodge and dodge. Everyone see the difference, well everyone except the Leftist partisans.
     
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    That's what you have been reduced to posting when confronted with honest questions.

    Would you pull out your military before your citizens?

    Would you leave your allies in the dark and vulnerable?

    The simple questions Leftists refuse to answer.
     
  8. Lucifer

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    Oh just f****** stop!

    Your questions are without context. Those are questions that cannot, and should not, be asked in the middle of an operation. Only armchair generals have the luxury to pontificate as you do to inflate your ego and your partisan hackery.
     
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    The end came too quickly because we didn't have enough forces there to make a fighting retreat, if attacked. We should have months ago told people we promised to help that the time to leave had come, and that beyond 'x'-day we would not guarantee their safe exit. 'X'-day should have been some time ago.
     
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    YOU said
    Sorry to disappoint you, but I knew that immunisation can be reached through prior infection, which is logical since the vaccine is aimed at giving the recipient a light dose of the virus in order to trigger a response by the body and/or to create anti-bodies enabling the body to fight-off the effects of the virus.

    Now, you should read your own posts before contradicting them:



    So, stop lying; it's crystal clear that Alessandro Sette agrees with Fauci on that one; Fauci had said 70%to 85%.[/QUOTE]


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    I'm not "lying" notice what YOU said in large red lettering? When corrected (yet again) you change your tune and have the nerve to try blaming me.

    And I'm not "contradicting" a damn thing. Notice the large black lettering? Here it is again....


    no one quite knows what level of immunity might be required to stop SARS-CoV-2 from spreading.
     
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  12. LangleyMan

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    No, a lot more spending is here. Democrats aren't pushing for government-owned businesses, but they are talking about spending more on services for low-income folks. Healthcare. Better schools. Better housing.
     
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    Those are basic Analysis Questions that should be worked long before the operations begin. This is Project 101, which is what a withdrawal is... a project. All the Analysts in a real war room, would have asked and answered those two questions long ago and applied our strategy to the answer, which Joe Biden and the Democrats clearly failed to do the basics.

    The results are: pissed off allies, thousands of people needlessly endangered, and a Taliban holding all the cards as we screwed up the project. The Democrats could hardly do any worse than their abysmal failure.
     
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    Your boy Trump was going to pull out months ago, so there's no way he was setting us up for an orderly exit. What did we think was going to happen when we left and people who were living modern lives were considering the prospect of the forces of darkness once again in charge?
     
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    We owe 30 trillion dollars and the Democrats keep on adding trillions to it every other month. At what point is the national debt too high? And don't give me any crap that the rich are going to paying for it all because, at best, the rich will pass their increased costs on to the little guy. So, assuming nothing is going to be added onto the national debt (LOL), the poor will be paying the rich's tax increases.
     
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    TDS is real. Trump is not my guy. He's not Libertarian enough, but he did do a lot of good things. Larry Elder... that's my guy.

    You have zero clue what Trump would have done. The Taliban violated the terms of his deal. Trump literally got up, refused to meet the North Koreans, boarded Air Force 1 and flew out of Vietnam before ever meeting the North Koreans in the initial meeting as they too violated his terms. Trump has a history of negotiating this way, so again... you have no clue what Trump would have done. You're welcome.
     
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  17. Lucifer

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    And what are your intelligence credentials? How many years of "analysis" do you have? Because unless you have a high level of security clearance, you're just operating with the same limited info that we all have access to, and that does not an expert make you.
     
  18. Jack Hays

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    In our own interest -- to preempt a future attack in the US, which is now highly likely.
     
  19. Lucifer

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    And where were you in 2002 and 2003 when all of this was going down? I protested the war. What about you?
     
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    Yep and that to is on Biden and his military staff.
     
  21. FatBack

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    There is ZERO excuse for allowing all our weapons to fall into Taliban hands, it's not like they routed us into a hasty retreat on a battle field. Stop making excuses for that.
     
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    Your posting history shows your worship for Trump. You actually believe he hasn't committed any crimes. It doesn't get any worse than that.

    Also, those of us not wearing steel-reinforced blinders are able to separate a person actions from their party. So, there is no TDS. That's just made up by those of you that want to pretend he didn't cause (and continues to cause) a ton of grief to our country. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away no matter how many times you click your heels.
     
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    I have ran projects at Y12 in Oak Ridge for NNSA. My company services most of the nation's nuclear plants. I have about 15 years of Analyst work at the same time I have managed enormous projects as needed, when my staff is having a baby for instance. All that's real nice, but... NO ONE needs my credentials to answer those basic questions that you can't answer. I could ask my 19 year old and he would get it right.
     
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    But that's so much easier than placing the blame on the idiot behind the wheel!
     
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  25. Jack Hays

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    I have 34 years of experience, to include time in Afghanistan. Our exit was dishonorable and stupid.
     

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