Gen. Lee statue can be removed, Virginia Supreme Court rules

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This doesn’t please just blacks, it pleases everyone that isn’t an anti-American traitor. That the US didn’t hang these people for said treason is why we have an entire political party that still wants to overthrow the government.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I bet to you George Washington was just a dirty traitor who deserved the firing squad.

    Democrats spent 4 years trying to overthrow the elected Government. So you want a truce or something?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, we are beyond truces. We already tried that.
    The Republican Party can no longer be trusted to govern in good faith.
    They have abandoned the principles they once stood for and have moved to suppress the voices of the people.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So that looks like an admission that to you George Washington was just a dirty traitor deserving of the Firing squad.

    Republicans fight daily for the thing called human freedom. That is why Trump was so hated.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like the then daily attacks against Reagan, later against Bush and later against Trump? Who suppresses the peoples voice more than the Democrats praising the likes of Facebook, YouTube and Twitter? Nobody.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are known as Democrats.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wasn’t alive for Reagan but I know his policy was disastrous.
    As to trump and bush jr — both were elected against the will of the people.
    If you don’t understand the difference between attacking someone’s voice and suppressing it then I probably cannot explain it.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct
     
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    Lee and his gang of slavers were traitors and always will be traitors and scum to real Americans. If there is a hell they need to be in it.
     
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    That would be incorrect.

    “Almost from the beginning, the weather played havoc with the carefully laid plans. Soon after the steamer Baltic sailed, a heavy gale set in, badly scattering the expedition’s vessels and delaying the arrival of Fox’s force. When Baltic arrived at Charleston at 3 a.m. on April 12, only Harriet Lanehad completed the voyage. By 6 a.m., Pawnee joined the force, but her orders limited her usefulness. Fox boarded the vessel to ask Commander Rowan to stand in toward shore, but the captain could not comply because his orders required him to remain 10 miles east of the lighthouse and await Powhatan‘s arrival. Meanwhile, the Confederates had opened fire on Fort Sumter at 4:30 a.m. on April 12.”

    The confederates fired AFTER the northern reinforcement war ships had already invaded southern territory.

    Again, an act of war by ANY historical measure.
     
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    Trump rips removal of Robert E. Lee statue: 'Complete desecration'

    Former President Trump on Wednesday blasted the decision to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee in Richmond, Va., saying it would result in a “complete desecration.”

    Trump has defended such statues from being removed in the past, calling activists' effort a means to "take away" U.S. history and culture by calling for the removal of Confederate statues.

    A different statue of Lee served as the site of the deadly protest that was the scene of the 2017 "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Va.

    “Just watched as a massive crane took down the magnificent and very famous statue of ‘Robert E. Lee On His Horse’ in Richmond, Virginia. It has long been recognized as a beautiful piece of bronze sculpture,” Trump said in a statement.

    “To add insult to injury, those who support this ‘taking’ now plan to cut it into three pieces, and throw this work of art into storage prior to its complete desecration,” he added.

    Trump then claimed that had Lee been alive, he would have led a successful military operation in Afghanistan.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...l-of-robert-e-lee-statue-complete-desecration


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    Trump knows his base.... sad
     
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    You don’t think cutting it into 3 pieces is a completely despicable act?
     
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    nope, think it was a fitting end to it
     
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    You can’t understand why it might piss people off that you’re cutting the ****ing statue into 3 pieces instead of giving it to a historical group or cemetary or battlefield? Why the **** is that necessary?
     
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    southern conservatives have had years and years to move them, move them to a Trump library or something

    no one seems to want them
     
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    And what happened to all the sorry mother ****ers who said they don’t mind us having them in museums and battlefields, just not in the public space.
     
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    Uhhh plenty of people want them. The democrats won’t allow us to have them. They’ve refused to give them once they’ve torn them down.
     
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    we have asked they be moved to a museum for years, southern conservative fought that

    if southern Conservatives want the rest, they best be requesting to take them somewhere else asap, people are tired of fighting over it and just want them gone

    maybe a Trump Library or Mar-a-Lago?
     
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    That’s because it’s our history and we have every right to celebrate our history. Who the **** are you that you think you have the right to tear it down because you don’t like it?

    Just remember. They’re not the only statues that can be desecrated.
     
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    it's not history to be celebrated, I think that is the point
     
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    Oh but MLK Jr who was a wife beater and encouraged a rape by his pastor friend should have statues up.

    A ****ing career criminal who pistol whipped a pregnant woman while his homies robbed her house deserves a statue.

    A communist dictator who was responsible for the death of 40MILLION people has a statue up in Oregon.

    A man who paints pictures of white women being beheaded by black women has a statue up in place of these statues.

    Margaret Sanger who believed in eugenics and thought it was the method through which we could eliminate the black race has statues up.

    Are you ****ing serious right now?
     
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    Furthermore the idea that you folks are doing this to get rid of the racist connotations is complete and utter bullshit.

    You know how we know? You replaced them with a statue by Kehinde Wiley who is a blatant racist whose ENTIRE portfolio is predicated upon stealing white peoples work and painting black people as its subject matter.

    He paints EVERY picture with the white people cut out and blacks drawn in their place. EXCEPT in the two pictures where he’s drawing someone being beheaded. In those pictures he changed the person doing the beheading to a black woman and left the person being beheaded as white women. Literally the ONLY time he EVER left his subject as white was when they were being beheaded.

    But yeah you all did this to address racism. Give me a ****ing break
     
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    why would you be against putting up a statue of MLK in the center of your town on a huge pedestal to celebrate him

    my guess is the right would be happy if it was later than tore down.. but history
     
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    You mean other than the fact he was a druggie, a degenerate gambler, a wife beater, a whore monger, a woman abuser and a homophobe?

    Well even if he wasn’t all of that he watched a woman get raped in his hotel room by his pastor friend, laughed while it happened and encouraged it to continue.

    Why in the ACTUAL **** does he deserve a statue?

    Robert E Lee was demonstrably and objectively both a better man and a better human being than MLK Jr. Even his adversaries admitted as much. Not to mention being the single greatest military commander this country has ever produced.
     
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