Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

Completely False Claim

 

Pompeo knew about this and helped Milley in his efforts to neutralize Trump.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/w...alled-china-in-final-days-of-trump-presidency

 

Trump will be there instead. Milley did NOTHING illegal. His oath is to the Constitution, which Trump was asking Pence to violate. And, Milley asked for no oath. That was an observation of the authors.

 

So Milley told the genocidal communist regime in China that he would warn them about an attack ahead of time.

Without providing evidence, Milley took actions over his delusional concerns that Trump would launch an attack against China. Milley held believed that Trump would fire nuclear weapons during his final days in office.

Milley thought China was worried about a possible attack by the United States in the South China Sea, even though China was ramping up military facilities around the area, as well as threatening neighbors like Vietnam, Indonesia, and Taiwan with military action. Your assumption that Milley was "not talkng about a planned, warranted attack" on China contradicts the reports, and there are military officials willing to testify to that affect.

There was no plan to nuke China. Trump was not going to attack China. Milley is merely a dolt that let Chinese and left-wing propaganda influence his decision to commit treason against his own country. It appears that Speaker Pelosi also knew about these calls.

This is extremely disturbing conduct. This is a top US official that back-channelled with an adversarial military power, and expressed a desire to provide top secret information about US military action in the region.

 

What do you know about it?

Do you have access to privileged information sitting at home behind your computer?

Milley was far from alone in his approach; Pompeo helped him reassure the Chinese.

Pompeo is therefore also a traitor...

 

Explain....

 

It's in the Washington Post article. General Milley told China in a secret phone call that he would give advance warning if U.S. were planning an attack. “If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”

Pompeo never told the Chinese that he would give them advanced warning before an attack. You're conflating stories. The fact that Milley acted in secret should stick out to you. Clearly, Milley is providing 'aid and comfort' to the enemy outside the chain of command.

Yes. Milley committed treason. He offered his services to China. He told subordinates to obey his orders and ignore orders given by the Commander-in-Chief.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...lley-engaged-in-a-coup-against-trump-n2595858

 

Completely False Claim

 

Milley said, “General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”

Milley "called the admiral overseeing the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, the military unit responsible for Asia and the Pacific region, and recommended postponing the military exercises, according to the book. The admiral complied."

 

You didn't meet your claim..... Declared False...

 

I'll agree that that particular part of the statement may be partially false. One can certainly read between lines.

"Milley also summoned senior officers to review the procedures for launching nuclear weapons, saying the president alone could give the order — but, crucially, that he, Milley, also had to be involved. Looking each in the eye, Milley asked the officers to affirm that they had understood, the authors write, in what he considered an “oath.”

 

I wasn't responding to you, so your conclusion is false.

 

Then don't hit Reply to my posts... that was my first (and only) clue that you were responding to me...

 

More like clueless. The post you quoted is a response to egoboy. Go back to that post #334. There's your clue.

 

personal attacks against other posters, is that all the right has these days?

 

I am not only aware of that Oath, I took it, and as far as I'm concerned, it is still in effect! Did you??

There is nothing in the Constitution, nothing in the UCMJ, and nothing in Civil Law (at least that I am aware of, if you know something I don't, by all means share with the rest of the class) that gives an Officer, whether he/she is the CJCOS or not, the authority to override or countermand the POTUS just because they may have reservations about that person's ability to perform their job adequately. CJCOS does not have the authority or the discretion to take that upon themselves. Only the Vice-President, under the 25th Amendment has that authority, to wit:

US Constitution, 25th Amendment, Section 4: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

The only other alternative is Impeachment, but in a situation such as this, not only would it take too long, I very much doubt that fear of what the POTUS might do counts as "high crimes and misdemeanors".

In fact, in the event the President orders a nuclear strike on anyone for any reason (and his/her authority is pretty much absolute here), I could be wrong about exactly who, but there is some Cabinet level official that must be consulted, and I think it's SECSTATE, is only confirming the identity of the President, and is not (necessarily) indicating that they concur with the decision, as their concurrence is not necessary.

You like what GEN Milley is alleged to have done strictly because you dislike Trump for your own personal reasons, and you see this is a high ranking military Officer agreeing with you, and hell, maybe it is. The problem is that high ranking military Officer did not have the authority to do what he is alleged to have done, Constitutionally or otherwise.

I stand by my original statement that if guilty, he committed Treason. And you would too, if you actually cared about preserving, protecting, and defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic more than you cared about your personal hatred of the now former President.

 

Like you claim there's been some sort of personal attack. How is "sorry there isn't a vaccine for you" a personal attack? Sure. It's a personal comment with an implied judgment. But is this really an attack? No. Is it abusive? No.

So are leftists contacting the moderator over some light jabs like this? I get personally attacked constantly, but never do I think to contact the moderator cause my feelies are hurt. And some of you guys are absolute savages. Instead, I'm the one that gets the moderator PMs, because they cry to their mommy. Is that all the left has these days? Mommies?

 

This post is spot-on. It's treason. You have a concrete action (secret correspondence with China) and the intent to betray the nation (warn China of US military action). https://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2589&context=ylj

I honestly think the media is going to move-on. Their primary leftists talking points rest on conjecture. They keep claiming that Pompeo advised, ratified, and coordinated these actions with Milley, but the only real evidence in support of this proposition is that Pompeo told Milley that "Trump was in a dark place". That's it. The preponderance of evidence demonstrates that Milley had extreme delusions about Trump starting wars and launching nuclear weapons. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Milley one of those "sources close to the situation" quoted by the likes of CNN to spin-up false narratives and fake news.

 

don't play stupid, it was obviously a personal attack

and nope, your post is still there, proof I did not report it, unlike some of the snowflakes on the right, I did not try to censor your post

 

I am going to go on record and say, if Milley did and said the things this book det

Technically, if all is true, Milley went beyond the call of duty and should resign. I totally understand the nut he was faced with and the desperation that nut was experiencing so Milley took a calculated risk.

 

And it is perfectly legal and acceptable for Milley to think that Trump is/was crazy. But what it not legal is for him to substitute his own personal judgement regarding whether or not to release nuclear weapons for that of the President, whether said President is "crazy" or not. Neither can Pelosi for that matter, though I've seen nothing alleging that she had anything to do with this.

The only person on the planet empowered to make such a decision was Vice-President Pence, and even he didn't have the power to do so independently, as it also would have required a majority of the Cabinet to execute such a thing.

My comments on this matter have nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not I personally think Trump was nuts, nor whether or not I personally think what Milley is alleged to have done was a good idea or not. I am merely commenting on the legality of such actions, and unless there is something in the UCMJ, or buried deep within one of those 10,000 page bills/laws that actually grants him the authority to have done what he did that I do not know about, I do not see anything that allows him to have done so legally. He lacks the authority required to do what he did (allegedly), period, full stop.

Therefore his actions were illegal, criminal, and rise to the level of Treason.

Even if you would like to argue that had Trump issued an order to release nukes it would somehow have been an illegal order that Milley would have been obligated to disobey, a position which I very much doubt would have been the case considering the broad unilateral discretion the President has in issuing such an order, which is for all practical and legal matters, not subject to any debate, such an order had not yet been issued, and as we all now know, wasn't subsequently either.

As I'm sure everyone reading this is well aware, there have been many allegations made against Biden that his own mental health is in extremely poor condition, up to and including declaring him to be nothing more than a mouthpiece for actual behind the scene powers who is incapable of even forming his own thoughts beyond reading a teleprompter. Whether or not you personally find those allegations credible, ask yourself this... What if Milley thinks they are? What if he has continued his behind the scenes actions to render the nuclear "football" devoid of any power to release nukes in the event it becomes necessary? Does Milley's personal judgement against whomever might be President somehow give him the authority to also render Biden toothless, or is it somehow only permissible when the President's name is Trump? Do all future CJCOS's retain that authority against all future Presidents, or is Trump so unique that it will only ever apply to him? Keep in mind that precedents in such issues actually matter in real life, and if this is allowed to stand, it effectively gives the same power to all future Chairmen against all future Presidents, based solely on their own personal judgement. Is that really what you wish for? Not even the VP can do it without the consent of others, but now you want to give that power to a single person, in the dark, with no oversight from anyone whatsoever?

I don't believe for a moment that anyone posting in favor of what Milley is alleged to have done truly wants such a precedent to apply to future occupants of the Oval Office, especially when said occupant is "your guy". It's merely the personal hatred of a man named Trump that has spread so far and wide that it's clouding the judgement of those who don't really understand what it is you are wishing for. As they say, be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it.

 

Without empowering the President, whomever that may be, the ability to strike back to a nuclear attack with little to no notice, the doctrine of "Mutually Assured Destruction" does not exist. And without that, we would not have survived the Cold War, for that was the only thing that prevented all sides from pre-emptive launches of nuclear weapons. And even with the death of the Soviet Union, I still don't trust the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans and even others to resist the temptation that might come from being comfortable knowing that that deterrent no longer exists.

 

Valid point. I guess I am so shocked by this I didn't think about any of that but it's important!

So, how do we avoid electing a uncontrollable lunatic in the future?

 

Lol…what utter bullshit.
The really disturbing conduct was how the orange quisling always deferred to putin for four years and how he and his cult thought that they could overturn an election by staging an insurrection to keep trump in power after he lost.
And the disturbing conduct of those still pushing trump’s big lie is a clear and present danger to our country.
Get your priorities straight.

 

I'll deal with this fairly quickly.

If Trump wanted to start a war (nuclear or otherwise) with China so that this crisis could allow him to remain President, all the people around him who acted to prevent it are heroes and deserve the highest honors.

In this case, the Constitution doesn't protect the people from the actions of a POTUS who has lost his mental faculties and who could kill millions of people only because he lost the election.