Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

Where does it say that? It wasn't in the OP article.

 

Which makes him treasonous. Not a hero. But we know how the let loves their treasonous partners if they do something against a political party they don't like.
Birds of a feather.

 

Cabinet officials have to be consented to by the U.S. Senate. Many of Trump's "acting Secretaries" were not.

You didn't answer my question.

 

I never thought you did. I've never liked Trump. I don't particularly "like" any trust fund babies, but I respect some.

 

That would make Milley clinically insane. Nobody on the planet is under any impression we are going to get involved in a nuclear war with anyone. I know this is new news for the left but Generals don't get to make these decisions. Our elected do. But we know how much the left needs to be coddled by Government.

 

There was no attack planned and no indication of an attack being planned. Just a delusion by Millie.

Your assertion that only an insane person would plan a nuclear first strike is very questionable. Let's say for example, that a country launched a bio attack against the US. Should a nuclear retaliation be considered? Let's say we had intel that a country planned to nuke us. Should we wait to be nuked before launching our own weapons?

 

No one would have thought the U.S. Capitol could have been invaded by a mob seeking to overturn a presidential election either. Remember...this was post January 6th.

 

He did and Biden does.

 

Except Trump never asked to launch. Or tried to launch. Or even asked to launch. But its the same General who abandoned Americans behind enemy lines, evacuated our only air support 30 days prior, and allowed the Taliban to provide airport security.

Looks like your general is going down for treason. Making insane claims when nobody even tried to launch or asked about launching makes him insane, not a hero.

 

Doing an end-around oversight was Milley's concern.

The memo* had been secretly drafted by two Trump loyalists. No one on the national security team knew about it, according to the book. The memo was eventually nullified, but Milley could not forget that Trump had done an end run around his top military advisers. *a military order to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan by January 15, 2021

Trump's placement of lackeys as acting secretaries was obviously planned, as was his memo to pull out of Afghanistan without consulting military brass.

 

Since Trump never tried to launch, or asked to launch, or had a meeting about launching, your point is moot.
Your general left Americans behind in enemy territory. He's an idiot and the fact that he claims Trump was insane so he had to do something about the nuclear football makes him insane.

But when you find those meetings about launching against china, you let us all know.

 

He did not have to directly disobey the President to commit treason. Milley is finished. He admitted to his actions to reporters. He is toast. With the liberals though, he will get to slink away quietly.

 

Will he slink away or his he toast? How Trumpian.

How do you know this wasn't initiated by China with a call to Pompeo? Very little can be concluded by the article, certainly not that Milley committed treason.

Milley's fear was based on his own observations of Trump's erratic behavior. His concern was magnified by the events of January 6 and the 'extraordinary risk' the situation posed to US national security, the authors write. Milley had already had two back-channel phone calls with China's top general, who was on high alert over the chaos in the US.

China was on high alert because of Trump.

 

Yes, it was Treason.

Do you think the Constitution and chain of command can be bypassed via some sort of unconstitutional consensus?

I can honestly say in these discussions I am shocked by how little liberals regard the US Constitution. We are doing a very poor job of teaching Government in High School.

 

First of all, there is no evidence that Trump was going to start a war, and I can't help but question the honesty, judgement and/or mental health of anyone who thought he would.

Second, TDS Sufferers, wherever they may be, are in no position to be judging other people's mental health.

Third, IF Pompeo was involved in this alleged affair - and anything Bob Woodward says has to be treated with a healthy dose of skepticism - he has some answering to do himself, and his involvement would not absolve Milley of any wrongdoing.

I don't know if you've seen this yet, but it's from someone who could hardly be described as a devoted Trumpeteer:

Vindman is correct, and myself and others have been making the same point throughout this entire thread. The principle of civilian control over our military is sacrosanct, and if Milley violated that and his oath he would not be the first general who was guilty of that offense and relieved of his command. Furthermore, if the allegations are true, Milley should be court-martialed and his punishment should serve as an example to anyone and everyone else who thinks they can violate the principle of civilian control with impunity. As for whether or not Milley committed treason when he contacted the Chinese, that is another thing a court-martial would have to consider.

 

If a sub pops up off the East Coast and starts launching nukes the procedure better be fairly quick.

 

By telling them secretly if there is any planned attack on China he would let them know? Now you have to wonder who else did he say that too.
He's insane.

 

Has nothing to do with Milley being treasonous.

 

As this is unprecedented, nobody can speak to any constitutionality.

 

Then, there would be a build-up to that attack and intensive discussion at the level of the National Security Council. Milley was a part of that decision-making process. You seek to think of Trump as some sort of absolute monarch? Let's say we discover absolute proof that China deliberately "weaponized" the Covid virus. Do you seriously think we'd just nuke China without presenting that proof to the rest of the world?

Milley had recently experienced the by-passing of the National Security Council process by Trump regarding the immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan. Somehow, he had obtained a copy of the Executive Order before it was released. He managed to talk Trump out of it. And, the calls were after the January 6th riot, with BOTH party congressional leadership blaming the Capitol break-in on Trump. IOW, he had every right to reassure the Chinese that the U.S. would NOT launch a nuclear war without provocation. He also had every right to remind his subordinates that they did not have to follow unlawful orders and that, as the chief military advisor to the President, he was a part of the decision-making process. And, he had the right to reassure Pelosi that everything was under control, even though he agreed with her that the President was crazy. There was no treason committed on Milley's part, nor any Presidential order disobeyed.

 

Then you fail to understand the way the U.S. government works.

 

He was reassuring the Chinese that there were no such meetings. And, in regard to Afghanistan, Milley was carrying out the orders of both Trump and Biden.

 

Deepstate.

 

That doesn't make any sense. unprecedented or not, going outside the constitution and breaking the chain of command like Milley did is still treason.
Unprecedented, yes it was. An American general communicating to the enemy of our intent? Thats why we have a constitution.

 

Agreed, but sadly, "unitary executive" policy has become more accepted by the public over time.

After decades of Congress ceding power to the Executive, it's not surprising that authoritarian viewpoints would eventually become problematic.

It's looks like Biden is of a different mold than Obama and Trump, and also Cheney and Rumsfeld. I hope a trend away from executive power is established. Biden has been pleading with Congress to get their **** together, but we may be at a point of no return.