Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

Man, whoever put him in charge must be quite the moron!

 

Milley's term is almost over and he'll undoubtedly retire and spend a lot of time testifying to Congressional investigations, under oath. Milley was reassuring the Chinese that U.S. first strike policy had not changed, despite the attempt to overthrow the presidential election and that if such a change occurred, he's give them forewarning. That MAY HAVE avoided a preemptive Chinese first strike following January 6th.

 

He communicated to the Chinese he would inform them if we ever decided to make a plan against them. Thats called treason.
Just an FYI, Trump isn't president so there are no orders for Milley to follow from Trump. I thought you knew that since he lost the election but I have come to the point that people on the left don't know how our government works.

 

Agree.

 

Says the guy who thinks generals can do anything they want if they don't like a president.

 

Trump was still President at the time. Biden didn't become President officially until his inauguration. And, I believe the call was to reassure the Chinese there was no basic change in U.S. policy toward them, but if Trump ordered a first strike against them, he would so inform them. Milley may have avoided a preemptive Chinese first strike against us following January 6th.

 

Alexander Vindman says Gen. Milley ‘must resign’ if China calls report true
https://nypost.com/2021/09/14/vindman-says-gen-milley-must-resign-if-china-calls-report-true/

 

Trump was no different then than he had ever been. He complained about elections back in 2016, he was bombastic before he ever ran for office.

As noted in the WaPo citing a Bloomberg article by Timothy O'Brian

"Milley also came to suspect that Trump had “suffered a mental decline after the election,” according to the Washington Post’s excerpt.

But here’s the thing: Trump was the same guy before and after the 2020 presidential election and on Jan. 6 that he was when he was elected in 2016. He’s the same guy he was decades before that, too. Love him or hate him, Trump is consistent and has stayed true to form for most of his 75 years. It’s that authenticity that endears him to his supporters.

Did Trump suddenly go into a psychological slide in 2020 that made him more dangerous than before? No. It was obvious to anyone watching closely that he would rather burn down the house after the 2020 presidential election than acknowledge defeat. He warned of electoral fraud before the 2016 election, too, and he continues peddling the same myth today. It’s utterly predictable, because he doesn’t change. People supporting him or advising him who may have thought otherwise were kidding themselves."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...ebf340-1596-11ec-a019-cb193b28aa73_story.html

Milley went rouge, outside the chain of command and totally outside the law and the Constitution. If this is true, and more and more it seems so, he should resign else be fired. Does the current President have the guts to so protecting the Constitution.

As I noted we have far more to worry about as far as mental health and capacity of Biden, what if Milley decides that Biden is incapable and dangerous now so he will take control.

Seven Days in May.

 

Exactly. Milley assured the Chinese that a line of communication would remain open. That line of communication would be vital to preventing a nuclear strike.

 

At the time, it was far more likely that the President had violated the Constitution than not, regarding January 6th. That's still TBD.

 

IF a US President were going to start a nuclear war, I would hope someone would step in and tell him to go **** himself, treason or not. Sometimes treason is the right thing to do. Reference American War for Independence.

im not even going to begin to pretend I know enough about the general’s reasoning to know if he did the right thing or not. But as a general principal, all the betrayal, treason, lying, misleading, etc is very much preferable to nuclear war.

if there was some other motive besides keeping an irrational President from starting nuclear war, then I’d say the general needs to resign. However, if he truly thought there was a chance trump would try a first strike, then **** the rules, **** the regulations, **** the chain of command, and put an end to the threat of nuclear war. Nothing else would be more important.

 

I see...now you believe Vindman to be right.

 

And the evacuation was August 13, 2021. Biden decided not to uphold Trumps plan. Remind me who the president was at that time?

Oh, so now your excuse is, China was on the brink of launching a nuclear strike so Milley called to calm things down? Do you even have a clue as to how far you will go and the nonsense you will claim to defend Milleys actions?

 

Did you object to Schlesinger doing the same thing? Nope. Good luck pressing charges.

 

Well, we should dig him up and hang him then... he's only been in the ground for 7 years.... he might hold up until the noose takes hold...

And the answer to your question is yes... in extraordinary circumstances such as a Nixon and T**** in the final days...

 

Except you have no evidence of any of that. Its just left wing talking points. And your strawman to defend Milley.

 

But you think Trump should have been free to do whatever he wanted to do even though he was an emotional basket case at the time. Nice.

 

Here's a real tank slapper. What a surprise!

Trump Calls Allies to Demand Gen. Mark Milley Be ‘Arrested’ for ‘Treason’ (msn.com)

 

LOL... to do what in that circumstance??

Nuke the subs?? Good luck with that..

Do you know which country launched the nukes from the subs?

In which case, they aren't going anywhere... a few minutes isn't going to change much...

 

Toward the end...most of the "adults" had left the White House and the "advisors" had become people like the "My Pillow Guy," Peter Navarro, Miller, Bannon, Giuliani, et al. Nuts. If the book is correct, Trump's reply to Pence's objection to returning the certified election ballots to the states on constitutional grounds, with "...but wouldn't it be cool," probably sums it all up.

 

Milley, Pompeo and Pelosi etc. have taken steps to prevent Trump from starting a war.

Because Trump is crazy.

You're going to have to accept that one day.

Not launching a nuclear attack is not proof of a president's sanity.

Preventing an insane President from launching one is a brave act.

 

He asserted authority he does not have and outside the chain of command telling the Chinese that if the President decided it was necessary to launch a nuclear attack he would prevent it even though he is NOT in that chain of command and has no command authority over the military forces.

National Review today calling for a full investigation

"What is never proper is for an American military officer to go to hostile foreign governments to tell them things at odds with the message the president decides to communicate. According to the book, General Milley went to the head of the Chinese military to tell him, in effect, that Trump was bluffing. He reportedly ordered naval exercises canceled to avoid offending the Chinese. He even “went so far as to pledge he would alert his counterpart in the event of a U.S. attack . . . ‘General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.’”

General Milley allegedly undertook all of these steps on his own, without telling the commander in chief. It appears that he may have done so without informing the civilian leadership of the State or Defense Departments or the National Security Council. This would constitute insubordination. Douglas MacArthur and John C. Frémont were fired for less. One of the specific reasons why Harry Truman removed MacArthur was that he was pushing his own ideas to friendly and neutral foreign ambassadors without telling the president. Doing so to an American adversary would be indefensible. Promising to do so in the event of a shooting war would be an offer to commit treason.

Recall that General Michael Flynn was wiretapped and questioned by the FBI for talking to the Russian ambassador, even though there is no reason to think that Flynn was carrying a message different from the one the incoming Trump administration would deliver. These allegations unquestionably are vastly more serious than what General Flynn did."
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/09/investigate-general-milley-now/

 

Why can't he be both? Maybe in reverse order (toast and then slinking) and I am not a Trumpian. Never have been and never will be.

It said Milley made two calls to speak on topics of National Security. Telling China that we aren't going to attack opens the door for them to make a move. We are fortunate that they did not as Milley left the U.S. totally vulnerable. If I am China and someone from another country calls to tell me the leader of that country is wacko (true or not is not the debate here), then I may choose to be pro-active and strike first. Milley could have ended us.

And I am okay with Pompeo getting crushed by this if he was involved.

 

Milley has no authority to make that call. He cannot speak for the United States on matters of National Security when it comes to a foreign power such as China.