Pfizer scientists admit on hidden camera pretty much everything 'deniers' have been saying lately.

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    CONVICTED felon James O'Kreep has a long RAP SHEET of making FAKE videos where he selectively EDITS comments to make people appear to be saying things that are patently FALSE!

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    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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  2. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I watched the videos. Did you? How praytell could something like "your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination" and "you're protected most likely for longer since there was a natural response" be selectively edited?

    ...and why did both the speakers of these words immediately delete their LinkedIn and ZoomInfo accounts?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Obviously YOU do NOT know how SELECTIVE EDITING functions.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/10/01/918223033/where-are-the-deepfakes-in-this-presidential-election

    What CONVICTED felon James O'Kreep does is SELECTIVELY edit video clips so what YOU see and hear is OUT OF CONTEXT and CANNOT be trusted to be the ACTUAL MEANING of what was actually said by those individuals.

    WHY would anyone BELIEVE what a CRIMINAL is giving them?

    Or does your CONFIRMATION BIAS override your ability to use your critical thinking skills?

    Let me put it to you this way. If I provided you with a video where someone you really TRUSTED was telling YOU to GIVE all of your MONEY to Bernie Sanders immediately would you be skeptical?

    Of course you would because you would question the SOURCE of the VIDEO.

    The SOURCE of the video that is TRIGGERING your Confirmation Bias is a FELON.

    WHY are you NOT questioning the SOURCE?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because if this were a deep fake, the internet would be ablaze with digital forenzic analysis proving the videos were altered or manufactured. They're not. All we have is people attacking the sources while completely ignoring the videos themselves. ...and the scientists deleting their professional profiles, of course.
     
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    Classic appeal to authority
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you have FILTERED OUT all such content EXPOSING the FAKED videos.

    Try using an INCOGNITO browser and see what turns up.

    There is PLENTY of evidence on the internet that PV and FELONIOUS James O'Kreep are producing FAKED videos.

    https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-project-veritas-pfizer-immunity/31499868.html

    FACTS matter!
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the FACT is that none of that even tries to suggest that any of this particular video was altered. The purpose of this video isn't to provide an analysis of the cost vs benefit of natural immunity vs vaccinated immunity. Its not claiming natural immunity is better nor is it claiming studies are conclusive. Its merely showing that these pfizer scientists themselves believe natural immunity is better and they believe that information is being suppressed. You are the only one suggesting these videos are fakes, and you have yet to provide any evidence for that claim.
     
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    I can't see the video for some reason. Regardless, I find it bizarre when things like this happen.

    1. Why is there a hidden camera wherever this person was talking to somebody else?
    2. Why would whomever owns and operates these cameras be interested in some random people talking?
    3. Why would that person release this video and how is that possible without the parties' consent?
    4. It's strange this person would use all the right "buzz words" making rounds around the anti-vax issue.

    Again, I couldn't see the video but a cursory read leads me to believe this is staged.
     
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    I had no expectations as to what I would find in the blood test until the Dr. explained that there would be antibodies due to the shot. Turns out that isn't true. Now I'll admit that I don't know what is true, just that it isn't that. The explanation I read says the vaccine will recognize the virus and trigger your immune system to create the antibodies to fight it. If that is the case then it is not a preventative at all, it is the ultimate cure. It isn't for if we catch this virus, it's for when we do. If it dissipates in our system it may weaken our body's defense, ergo the booster.

    None of that is science, it all stems from my own anecdotal experience and my attempt to make sense out of what happened with the test and why the results don't match what I expected.
     
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    I uphold YOUR right to BELIEVE the canards of CONVICTED felon James O'Kreep.

    Like ALL of his prior DEBUNKED videos this too will be EXPOSED in due course.

    The PATTERN remains CONSISTENT.

    I prefer to stick with the FACTS instead.

    #1 O'Kreep is a convicted FELON.

    #2 His PV videos are consistently EXPOSED as LIES.

    #3 He will continue to make these BOVINE EXCREMENT videos because there are people who will BELIEVE them despite his TRACK RECORD of being exposed as a CONNIVING LIAR.

    FACTS matter!
     
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    Why do police investigators often "bug" hotel rooms and other places where targets of an investigation might congregate?

    So that they can hear how the targets really think, really feel, really speak about certain matters.

    It's not rocket science MJ, simply human nature, human behavior. Humans DO learn to deceive at young ages. Oh what webs we weave when first we practice to deceive. :angel:
     
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    Really?
    And it was so accurate and informative that only the loonie toon site infowars is the only place you could find this story?
    Doesn't pas the smell test.
    Why anyone would link to infowars is beyond me. There's not a shred of legitimacy from them.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    This was not a police investigation in this OP.

    It's from a know lying source that has altered videos and lied before. There's not a shred of credibility from infowars. No one should ever start a thread based on a source from liars like infowars.
     
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    To hear something other than party line? You have to be careful what you believe but that's no different than MSM stories.
     
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    Party line? LOL. Weak man, weak.

    Depends on the MSM source. And if its a reporting of a story or an opinion of the story.
    But I live by a rule, believe none of what your hear/read and only 1/2 of what one sees.

    I need more than 1 source to believe something and then the truth is often still somewhere in between that.


    But infowars is about as bad as a source gets. They are known liars. And known for heavy editing of interviews.
    One should actually be embarrassed to use them as a source. I know I won't take anything serious from those that use very questionable sources.
     
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    If all your sources share the same political view you can watch 10 of them and still be misinformed. I agree that party line is weak but so many of you still fail to see through it. I'm as amazed by that as you are.
     
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    Being that they hold a better immunity than i with less symptoms than I got from the vaccine I would have to say I will take that bucket full of luck any day of the week
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The cameras were hidden presumably because the pfizer scientists (as they claimed) were discussing things that pfizer told them not to discuss. Laws regarding secret filming vary widely from state to state. Its always possible that a film is staged. But why would pfizer biochemists and pharmacologists stage such a video and then delete their professional profiles? What are the 'buzzwords' you refer to?
     
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    I don't know the back story to all this so just based on what you've written, it seems bizarre the scientists were discussing something they were told not to discuss in a location that clearly is owned by the people that told them not to discuss it.

    If your boss told you to not talk about something, would you talk about that something anywhere they might have a hidden camera?

    The math equation would be "Anywhere outside these people's property" minus "these people's property". That leaves a gazillion and one OTHER places to talk about what one is not supposed to talk about and possibly be secretly recorded.

    They do. I would assume if the recording is legitimate it happened in a state where secretly recording people is legal (or else it wouldn't be published).
    I don't know the back story as I mentioned. Who deleted their professional profiles, when did that happen relative to this video being released and why is that a concern?
    I'm assuming you are aware that websites use algorithms to push specific information to the top in search engines. It's kind of like our parents' and grandparents' eras when people named their businesses with an "A" word (so they would be seen first in the printed phone book).

    Since the pandemic has been made political, the easiest way to push anything published is to use certain words and "tags" so that information moves up the ladder. I didn't go back and reread your OP but, IIRC, you had a list of various points the speakers in the video said and their position that aligns with those in the anti-vax crowd. Please feel free to correct me if that is not accurate.
     
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    Oh duh, I give up. Good day.
    I don't have a partisan political view.

    You can't remember me telling you, believe none of what one reads or hears and 1/2 of what one sees.

    Just take your party line BS elsewhere.
     
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    So in other words he has taken a lesson from the DNC over the last five years and applied it to his own platform... I don't understand what your problem is with it? Anything less then "OK with it" would seem hypocritical :shock:
     
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    Well thats kinda the whole point. 'Pfizer scientists caught on secret cam backing up the established viewpoint' wouldn't really be news. The 'backstory' is that Project Veritas cozied up to pfizer vaccine scientists and caught them on secret video contradicting what we're all being told is 'established science' that we're not sposed to be questioning. The 'buzzwords' are mine. Im not sure why you cant play the vid (i still can) but the scientists use their own words. I paraphrase using 'buzzwords' because thats how I framed the OP and because the scientists are just chatting nonchalantly with lots of 'uh's and 'like's and it makes for a difficult transcription. IDK who deleted their professional profiles on LinkedIn and etc (presumably them since it was their own accounts) but the profiles were deleted almost immediately after the secret cam footage was released and are now only available as archives (which are available in this thread).
     
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    If I saw nothing but the conversation this is part of I would believe you are hard core left
     
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    I'm not sure why I can't load it. My laptop has been a b!tch lately. That may be it. ;-)

    I don't believe that it's outside the realm of possibility that a LARGE percentage of people do or have done things in their professional roles that are against their personal beliefs, ethics and values. Many of us have been in that position many times and getting our hands dirty, while filthy, is sometimes the only way to stay gainfully employed. Fortunately, I was able to escape that rat race and offer my services to businesses without getting entangled in their behind-the-scenes dysfunction but it's it was a very hard journey to that point.

    With that said, I don't see how the vax v. anti-vax is any different than the left v. right or us v. them games are played. It's all the same stuff - us running on a hamster wheel to nowhere.
     
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    And I was wrong about thinking you were capable of honest debate.

    How is it you think this statement is hard core left: believe nothing about what one hears/reads and 1/2 of what one sees? If one is being honest.

    Good night.
     
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