The New Climate Reality

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Those are full running global temperatures. The cooling trend since 2016 is undeniable.
     
  2. Jack Hays

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    Cooling began in 2016, as demonstrated.
     
  3. Tigger2

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    When so many environmental experts from so many different countries and political climates agree then its reasonable to believe them over a guy on the internet.
     
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    I expect you will, if I lost as often as you do, I might be tempted to kid myself too.
     
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    Oh yes definitely just look at that red line running through the decades If you look it started cooling in 1984, 1992, 1999 and 2006 as well.:roflol:
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  6. Jack Hays

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    The data are against you.
    Our planet’s temperature peaked in 2016 and has been in a disciplined decline since. It is in a channel 0.5°C wide with a slope of -0.03°C per annum. The atmosphere had been warming at 0.013°C per annum according to Dr Roy Spencer’s work. If the established cooling trend continues it will only take another decade to get back to the temperatures of the early 1980s. With the cooling trend firmly established, the question is: Can the proximate cause be found in the solar record?

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    You're fooling no one.
     
  8. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Truth has no need to fool anyone.
     
  9. Tigger2

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    agreed.
     
  10. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    I guess you're hoping we all just forget about your false solar irradiance claim.
     
  11. Lucifer

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    You first.
     
  12. Sunsettommy

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    Warming since 1979, cooling since 2016 that is the reality to accept.
     
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    Yes it was HOT!

    I was right there in some of the hottest part of the heatwave for several days it was over 115 F.

    The heatwave was created by a composite of three weather patterns combining in the region.
     
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    Not really as the weather related death rate has plummeted by over 90% since 1920.

    No climate emergency there.

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    Since there is no evidence that there is any sort of climate emergency ongoing you can calm down and live sensibly knowing it will be good for a long while ahead.

    What is "denial"? I see that word a lot but when pressed they can't dredge up a coherent reply can you?
     
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    There have been numerous droughts and heatwaves in the west mainly because it is NATURAL as it is a lot of Steppe and desert land in large areas of Oregon, Washington, California, Arizona and so on, the heatwaves are not increasing there but the heatwave this early summer was unusually hot because of a combination of three natural weather processes combining in the region.

    The rest of the country show very little change in temperature and that the rest of the country is getting wetter.
     
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    Not according to NASA who says there is LESS dry land over the last 20 years or so.

    Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds

    From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.



    An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

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    You call this from the EPA so what....

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    1950's, 1980's and 2010's are similar heat bumps but the 1930's is far higher...

    It is easy to read the chart.....

    LOL!
     
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    Neither does your dodging reply is helping you here, playing the climate fogging game.

    The word unprecedented has been used so many times for time frames that doesn't exceed past record keeping which is as short as 42 years and 160 years long, it is a favored word for warmist/alarmists and political operatives to use in their dishonest presentation of weather events.
     
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    There are no true "holes" and they develop in the Southern Winter time and break up in the spring time when outside Ozone and sunlight come into the Polar region to rebuild the thinned ozone layer.
     
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    It was caused by a conjunction of three Natural weather process that met in the Pacific Northwest region to make that awesome heatwave which I lived through.
     
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    You are a gifted Gymnast since you completely ducked the relevance of Jacks question about who claimed global warming made that heatwave.

    I didn't know you posses global temperature records going back millions of years, why haven't you published them?
     
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    The usual fallacy rears up, ducking the content of the article isn't helping you here.

    It was a natural event which took THREE natural weather fronts to create.

    Dr. Mass make this clear in his blog postings as it unfolded.
     
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    Unprecedented based on .0001% planets history.

    The word has been used waaaay too much over a natural weather event.

    LOL.
     
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    USHCN temperature data from the NOAA

    The charts Jack posted are based on it.
     

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