The New Climate Reality

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  1. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    No way anyone can be surprised, Biden said he would do this when he was running for President. Nothing has been done that he didn't promise his voters.
     
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    Yup. Biden did what the country needed when he was elected and Trump left office. Now we need the Repubs to win the mid-terms to keep Biden and the Dems from doing stupid things.
     
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    The so called West has started global warming by promoting economic activities (fuel burning) in China.
    The West seems to have no interest stopping China and Russia enrichment to the detriment of the climate.

    I also actually do not see any attempt to reduce reliance on fossil fuel in United States.
    At very minimal government could have put bicycle rack next to every store and create dedicated bicycle pathways.
    Nothing real has been done yet.
     
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    The article starts with this lie since it is WEATHER events they are howling over:

    There is NO climate emergency the very statement is stupid since most of the world isn't having a heatwave and the media constantly ignores the opposite in the Southern Hemisphere where a bunch of record cold weather has been going on for many weeks.

    Meanwhile this is what shows up for Europe:

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    The hot weather was caused by a natural phenomenon which is shown here:

    Cliff Mass PHD Meteorologist,

    "Here is the upper level (500-hPa pressure level, about 18,000 ft) at 5 PM PDT July 17th. The ridging (high heights or pressure) are indicated by the red-orange colors. Note there was a trough (blue colors) of lower pressure on its southwest side. This feature increases southerly flow that brings up warmer air."

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    Some folks whine about the heat. Others celebrate the boom in the air conditioning industry. Depends on your perspective.
     
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    Federal officials say Colorado River lows will compel unprecedented cuts in water use

    On Tuesday, the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation declared for the first time ever that the Lower Colorado River Basin has reached what’s called a “Tier 2” shortage, a threshold requiring major water use reductions by several Western states. The bureau has called on states to reduce use by 2 million to 4 million acre feet, and states are scrambling to negotiate a deal before the federal government imposes cuts of its own.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/clim..._campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert
     
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    An ‘extreme heat belt’ with 125 degree temperatures could cut through U.S. in coming years. Here’s where it will hit.

    An “extreme heat belt” reaching as far north as Chicago is taking shape, a corridor that cuts through the middle of the country and would affect more than 107 million people over the next 30 years, according to new data on the country’s heat risks.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/env...zbpOwcSODZyFsOkjrHFc9SXu1zMpMsNlfEdPIdwkBAAA=
     
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    Mississippi's governor declares a state of emergency as state's largest city has no running water for drinking, toilets or firefighting

    Gov. Tate Reeves declared a state of emergency Tuesday, saying an ongoing water crisis in Jackson, Mississippi, threatens "critical needs" and has no end in sight.

    Jackson Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba blamed state leaders for the system failure. "We’ve been going it alone for the better part of two years when it comes to the Jackson water crisis," he said. "I have said on multiple occasions that it’s a not a matter if our system would fail, but a matter of when our system would fail."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ZM0mceC+dZc5N2kkwhqu6pK0abqrvcIJfQOYldicBAAA=
     
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    Haw haw haw all based on unverifiable modeling guesses and stupid too because there isn't enough energy entering the system to make it happen on a more regular basis:

    and,

    bolding mine

    There is no link to this supposed paper at all. :roflol:

    This is a massive lie since it well known that Cold weather kills far more people than hot weather:

    This the reality warmist/alarmists ignore every day:


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    As far as I'm concerned we should not pay a dime so long as China is exempt. In any case, it's unlikely any funds will be appropriated by a Republican House.
     
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    Why should we pay anyone in the first place?
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    What an absurd and immoral load of nonscience. The immediately preceding post from Sunsettommy shows how "climate damage" has declined dramatically -- a benefit to poor countries that is largely due to the fossil-fueled economic power of rich countries.
     
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    Claims of climate "tipping points" are fraud, plain and simple.

    Climate Tipping Points: Real Threats or Misinformation?

    It seems like there is another strident climate "tipping point" headline every other day.

    Threats of irreversible catastrophic climate change just around the corner.

    The truth is that such claims by some media outlets and climate activists are contrary to the best science.

    An attempt to sow worry and panic, with the motivation to motivate people to "do the right thing." And it is both unethical and counterproductive. . . .

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    That's wonderful news. His Extremely Deluxe Self will get that new palace he needs.
     
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    The liars who make such claims ignore the fact that if such tipping points existed anywhere but in their models, they would have been triggered many times in the past, and were not. So they know their claims are absolutely certain to be false.
     
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    False predictions have been rampant since the 1960's. Miami is supposed to be underwater by now.

    During the negotiations for the Copenhagen agreement in 2009, former U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown predicted that if they didn’t solve the “impasse” they found themselves in within 50 days, the world was pretty much doomed.

    “If we do not reach a deal at this time, let us be in no doubt: once the damage from unchecked emissions growth is done, no retrospective global agreement, in some future period, can undo that choice,” Brown said. “So we should never allow ourselves to lose sight of the catastrophe we face if present warming trends continue.”

    The Copenhagen agreement, much like the Paris agreement that followed and the Kyoto Agreement that preceded it, was reached and did almost nothing except transfer wealth from wealthier nations to poorer ones. The world, meanwhile, hasn’t gone to hell quite yet, in spite of Brown’s predictions.

    Prediction #7: Prince Charles says we only have 96 months to save the world
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    I’m not entirely sure when the moldering heir of the House of Windsor became a climate scientist, but nearly 10 years ago, Prince Charles warned us all “that he had calculated that we have just 96 months left to save the world,” the U.K. Independent reported at the time.

    “We face the dual challenges of a worldview and an economic system that seem to have enormous shortcomings, together with an environmental crisis — including that of climate change — which threatens to engulf us all,” Prince Charles said, without revealing how he had “calculated” we only had 96 months left to save the world.

    A man who has access to the most prodigious conveniences and luxuries in the world told a crowd at St. James Palace that the “age of convenience” was over and that we had eight years to prevent “irretrievable climate and ecosystem collapse, and all that goes with it.”

    Except for technological advancement and a few accords which have had a relatively minor effect on the environment in the intervening years, not much has changed. Prince Charles’ deadline passed in 2017, and the “age of convenience” is still here. So is the planet Earth.

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    Back in 1988, as the global warming “consensus” began to grow, New York Times environmentalism reporter Philip Shabecoff wrote a piece of alarmism based on the work of the aforementioned James Hansen, fresh from his congressional testimony.

    “If the current pace of the buildup of these gases continues, the effect is likely to be a warming of 3 to 9 degrees Fahrenheit from the year 2025 to 2050, according to these projections,” Shabecoff wrote. “The rise in global temperature is predicted to cause a thermal expansion of the oceans and to melt glaciers and polar ice, thus causing sea levels to rise by one to four feet by the middle of the next century.”

    That’s a pretty wide band of predictions, but it turns out that Shabecoff was still well off. As the Institute for Energy Research points out, 30 years after his prediction, global temperatures have only risen by 1 degree Fahrenheit — not even close to the low mark of 3 degrees and far from the median of 6 degrees — and sea levels are up only up a few inches. And it’s not even clear the latter part is man-made.

    “The rate of sea level rise during the period ~1925–1960 is as large as the rate of sea level rise the past few decades,” climate scientist Judith Curry writes. “Human emissions of CO2 mostly grew after 1950; so, humans don’t seem to be to blame for the early 20th-century sea level rise, nor for the sea level rise in the 19th and late 18th centuries.”

    Shabecoff could end up being right, but current trends certainly don’t seem to bear that out.

    Prediction #9: Most species on the Earth will perish by 1995
    Back in 1970, around the time of the first Earth Day, Democrat Wisconsin Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote an article for Look Magazine. In it, he repeated one of the most preposterous claims in the whole climate change/pollution movement: “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

    So, how has that worked out? Even the World Wildlife Federation — certainly not known for a lack of alarmism when it comes to climate change — notes that experts “calculate that between 0.01 and 0.1 percent of all species will become extinct each year.” Even if you buy that number, that’s a long way off from getting to 75 to 80 percent. As in, hundreds of years off.
     
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    Manhattan was supposed to be under water 20 years ago.
     
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    While objectively more dangerous cold is declining...
    If the sun continues to be extremely active.
    Because the urban areas where human activities other than CO2 emissions cause hot spots are growing so fast.
    What a silly load of nonscience.
     
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    I remember a HUGE blizzard when I was a kid. We all thought a new ICE AGE was coming. Here we go again... only heat instead of cold.
     
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