Virus surge hits New England despite high vaccination rates

Why are you failing to read…
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The heading to the charts. Could it be, you don’t care to ?

 

Just post the studies you base your opinion on. Let’s examine them together. LOL.

 

Studies on what. I presented 41 references to trials and studies. Seems like the last poster would not read them.
I know you’d prefer just one….so here is one on non respirator masks.
https://www.healththoroughfare.com/...ve-in-preventing-the-spread-of-covid-19/36522

you smarter then Stanford ?

 

I read it just fine. I've also listened to our Department of Health director speak on it. Pretty sure he knows more than you.

Here's the latest chart.



I read it as saying of all covid cases, 6% are fully vaccinated. Of those cases that are hospitalized, 14% are fully vaccinated. Of the deaths from covid, 12% are fully vaccinated.

Care to give your alternative reading?

 

Notice the word “ hospitalizations”

 

Quit playing games. Either interpret the chart or admit you don't have a clue.

 

There is no alternative reading.

between .1 and 5% of vaccinated even need hospitalization.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-infections-vaccines.html


So your chart says 14% of those in hospital will die. So that’s 5% of 14% or .0070 % at most of vaccinated will die. Pretty effin good.

 

You obviously don’t know that these percents are only for those in the hospital at that time. At most, only 5% of infected ever need hospitalization. Break throughs have a low % of hospitalizations to begin with.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-infections-vaccines.html

 

It’s kind of funny you post that study. It supports my position that N95 and N95 equivalent masks are much better at preventing transmission in public settings. I actually posted links and pull quotes from this study to you on September 26, 2021.

The mask types used were cloth masks and N95 equivalent surgical masks. The N95 equivalent quality masks were twice as effective as the cloth masks.

Here is my post to you on this study.

So this study I provided to you weeks ago and you now present to me shows clearly cloth masks are inferior to N95 equivalent masks.

When we discussed the subject after my presentation of this Bangladesh study I said this:

You responded with this:

But now YOU post the same study that supports MY position. LOL

Attached file is from the actual study, showing the cloth masks are half as effective as the N95 equivalent quality mask.

 

You do notice the percents always add up to 100%
That’s proof positive we’re onlyntalking about hospitalized people

 

Why are you dragging the New York Times into this? This chart is about Mississippi.

Your last paragraph is just gibberish.
Clearly, in Mississippi, during the period of September 15 to October 12, 6% of covid cases were of fully vaccinated individuals, whether hospitalized or not.
Of those COVID patients in the hospital, 14 % are fully vaccinated. Of those that died from COVID, 12% were fully vaccinated.

I'm done with you. Go troll your ignorance somewhere else.

 

Bye, now. Quit embarrassing yourself.

 

I have no idea what your point is. You’re rambling about something. N95 mask are not effective because, MANY CANT EVEN WEAR THEM CORRECTLY OR ALL.

nearly ALL. Of the people at most risk. Can’t wear them.

tell me you know what a respirator is….please

 

I’ve already shown you N95s are referred to as both masks and respirators by many including the Mayo Clinic snd CNN. I’m completely uninterested in semantics. I’m interested in efficacy of masks, not nomenclature. Sorry.

Oh, if your beard is more important to you than avoiding infection with SARS-CoV-2 then keep the beard. LOL

 

That’s totally false. 6% represents 6% of the hospitalized people died . It does not represent 6% of the population of Mississippi.
You need help if you think that.
6% plus the 94% in the rest of the chart tells you they are only talking about the hospitalized population. It’s really strange if you think otherwise. This is basic statistics.

 

No you have not. I have proof
Go to any hospital that insists on masking. Tell me what masks they provide for out patient treatment !!
Mask mandates are for people who are already vaccinated. The rest of you people are fked

 

Btw you’d better be interested in semantics if you discuss science. Otherwise, as is the case here, you’re making bogus statements. No one in the medical community is recommending n95 masks for normal public use.
No one, nada, nix none. Only for special applications AND YOU CANT EVEN HAVE TOO MUCH FACIAL HAIR…

 

Well you’re wrong.
N95 masks are not as effective for public use, because the people most at risk, can’t physically wear them and maintain them. If that were not an issue, we’d all be wear scuba gear. They are not effectively better then surgical or multilayer cloth masks unless worn and maintained correctly..which the people most at risk CANT DO.

 

Imo, You aren’t qualified in this debate because I don’t think you’ve ever worn an n95 for an hour while you’re working.

 

You’re trolling. You’re not interested in the math or the English language of the charts and just want to make up stuff.
DID ANOTHER DENIER OF MASKS BITE THE DUST ?

 

I have worn N95s while shoveling corn in 100F grain bins for hours. But none of that is relevant. All that is relevant is all the evidence shows N95 masks are superior to cloth masks for reducing transmission of respiratory viruses including SARS-CoV-2 and that there is NO evidence cloth masks are as good or superior.

 

Why can Europeans and Asians wear them but not Americans? LOL

 

Shave your beard. I know nobody is recommending them. That’s the problem. They should be.

 

Oh I sure did.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1072987684/

I don’t care what hospitals do. Anyone claiming cloth masks are superior to N95s or equivalent masks for controlling spread of Covid in public settings is a science denier. Period.

 

You mean the one that says this. They OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENTIATE.
“U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends fabric masks for the general public. People who haven’t been fully vaccinated should continue to wear face masks in indoor public places and outdoors where there is a high risk of COVID-19 transmission, such as crowded events or large gatherings. The CDC says that N95 masks should be reserved for health care providers.

The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends medical masks for health care workers as well as for anyone who has or may have COVID-19 or who is caring for someone who has or may have COVID-19.”