Why Are You Against Same Sex Marriage?

It’s a legitimate source. It doesn’t matter if you think it isn’t

 

So, again you have no way of arguing against the content. Doesn’t surprise me.

 

It's not legit in terms if USA laws.

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Vision Statement:
Family Research Council's vision is a prevailing culture in which all human life is valued, families flourish, and religious liberty thrives.

Mission of Organization:
Family Research Council's mission is to advance faith, family, and freedom in public policy and the culture from a biblical worldview
https://www.frc.org/mission-statement


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They no doubt think LGBTQ should not exist.

It doesn't matter if you think it is a legit source.
Now what?

 

What is your goal? How many male homosexuals are you trying to achieve in America? A percentage will do.

 

What do you disagree with, other than the last bolded line, and where did line that come from?

 

Religion is outside secular USA laws.

From the law perspective, they have no bearing.

It was my own post. The last line. Isn't that their goal?
To stop all LGBTQ people?

 

So you made it up, I already knew that but at least you admit it. Hardly discrediting though, is it?

 

The “content” is their opinion and religious viewpoint.

I can discuss fact — you just haven’t presented any — but opinion is just that. The argument against the content is that religious arguments are invalid in US law. What are you having difficulty comprehending here?

 

The goal is equality.
That’s it. I would love to see a world where sexual orientation is irrelevant. I want people to be free to decide that of their own accord so there is not any specific percent I would like to see.

What is your goal? How many male homosexuals are you trying to achieve in America? A percentage will do.

 

I responded to your "multiple thoughts" on a point-by-point basis. Go back and read what I said. I'm very careful to always say exactly what I mean. If you don't like it, I don't know how to help you with that.

"Equal footing", so not more then? Not extra? Not in addition to but equal? The same in other words?

See previous response.

They do so what's your beef?

I didn't say that. You can frown upon or disagree with same-sex marriage all you want. It's free country, you can think what you like. You can't always expect to get your thoughts codified into law though.

I'm not going to go into a long monolog about the history of marriage and what's traditional or not.

Thanks for agreeing that same-sex couples don't have more rights than opposite sex couples.

 

You keep saying people had the option to enter civil unions. I'm pointing out that they didn't because in many places conservatives blocked them even from that. It's a historical fact not my opinion.

 

• I don’t have any difficulty at all. I’ve explained ny views many times, including to you.

 

In February 2010, Family Research Council's Senior Researcher for Policy Studies, Peter Sprigg, stated on NBC's Hardball that same-sex behavior should be outlawed and that "criminal sanctions against homosexual behavior" should be enforced.[71]

Jointly with Focus on the Family, the Council submitted an amicus brief in Lawrence v. Texas,[69]the U.S. Supreme Court case in which anti-sodomy laws were ruled unconstitutional on privacy grounds.[70]

The FRC is active outside of America; in 2010, FRC paid $25,000 to congressional lobbyists for what they described as "Res.1064 Ugandan Resolution Pro-homosexual promotion" in a lobbying disclosure report. Uganda would go on to pass the Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill, a bill which would have imposed either the death penalty or life imprisonment for sexual relations between persons of the same sex.[9][10]


I see you research your hate groups like you do you religious texts.

 

I turned my monitor upside down trying to figure that one out!

 

Peter Sprigg is only one man, and I disagree with him on that. Over all FRC’s mission is exactly what they say it is: defense of family values. I don’t agree 100% with ANY policy group. Maybe you do...if so bad on you, it indicates limited mental abilities.

 

So you would still support an organization that was defending the murder of Christians in Iran? Or calling for their incarceration?

How does arresting people for consensual sexual activity in their own home defend “family values”? How does preventing gay people from military service do so?

You shouldn't talk about limited mental ability with what you are trying to peddle.

 

You keep failing, yet you keep trying.

Methinks you just like to hear yourself talk.

 

Who dictates what is or isn't a marriage?

 

And you just like regurgitated bs

How does arresting people for consensual sexual activity in their own home defend “family values”?
How does preventing gay people from military service do so?

 

FRC’s goals, mission and message are completely out of step with the vast majority of Americans.

 

Oh, and what’s that supposed to mean? I don’t base my beliefs on what a majority of people think.

 

I'm not a fan of the appeal to majority. The FRC is nothing more then an activist group.

 

There are scores, probably hundreds, of policy groups around the country. I can’t think of any that aren’t activist groups. They all have some issue or worldview they promote.

 

Yeah the FRC is an activist group.

You should always take what they say with a grain of salt especially if it's something you agree with because they have a tendency to Cherry pick information.

Also they really on the idea that those they disagree with are more powerful and influential than they are.

 

I agree. But doesn’t that argue against saying “Oh, that’s just fake news” or “that’s been debunked?”
I try to avoid that kind of answer. I think it’s just better to explain why we disagree on the content.