“GOP embraces natural immunity as substitute for vaccines”

You live in the worlds number one country for contracting and dying from Covid-19 !!!!!

 

LOL, you got jokes Oh you were serious, my bad

 

I believe @HB Surfer did that. Well the old fashioned way, by allowing you to disprove yourself and DID

 

It's ****ing weird what they do. You give them exact numbers, facts, studies and they just dismiss them or act like you didn't just share them. If anything goes against their "reality" it must not be true... even if you can watch it on a video tape like the what happened to Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha.

 

It's pretty crazy to witness that exchange.

Leftists - That's not true! Here's a study!

SH2O - Your study has these numbers. If you do the Math, then it supports my argument 6 X 1.

Leftists - Ha ha ha... that's not true!

SH2O - Really... here is the quote from your link and the Math. You just played yourself.

Leftist - Ha ha ha... you should be banned for spreading lies!

SH2O - But... it's your link, your study... all I am doing is repeating your "proof".

Leftist - Ha ha ha... ban him!

 

DNC mind control, how else you gonna explain why a huge number of people blame Trump for something created by Chineses and released world wide.. And continue to follow blindly even with the ever growing amount of blaring data of covert data manipulation at the top of all this two year scamdemic..

 

You do understand that’s not a large enough sample size right?

 

100%

Or.... "Trump-Russia Collusion" which literally ended up being the exact opposite. It was Hillary Clinton - FBI - Russia Collusion and that's documented and proven. It's insane.... but many of them don't acknowledge it was Hillary Clinton and the FBI the whole time working with foreign agents and the Russians and still believe it was Trump. They will believe whatever they are told to believe.

 

The DNC and their true believers are so vested now they have little recourse but to stay the low road of disinformation or admit/loss of credibility even to themselves.. I know I'd not like to realized how naive I'd been after this far down the information road

 

Incorrect.

 

It's pretty obvious now, the DNC True Believers simply believe what their MSM and handlers program them to believe.. They really can't denied it anymore

 

We as a whole are a very unhealthy/old/sedentary and substance abusive people and covid/heart/diabetes/obesity/hyper tension took it's most vulnerable..

 

The science is not clear. Otherwise scientists in Israel wouldn't have said the opposite. You sound like the media pundits that say the science is clear on the vaccine for kids. It's an appeal to authority in order to convince, as much of Europe, and other countries, are not approving it for children. Some are not approving it for under 30. That indicates the science is not settled. It's shady to try and make people believe it is, just like it's shady to claim to be science.

Reinfections are rare. Are you sure that the person you know didn't have a false positive the first go around? What is the false positivity rate on current tests, and what was it a year ago?

 

I've provided 2 links, and a simple web search has hundreds more.

 

I forgot, you are now a statistician.

 

Wow, another internet medical scientist. !!!!

 

Most don't agree with you

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination
https://apnews.com/article/coronavi...ous-diseases-92c435268078edced2a22068feb4fb3c
https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...rotect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00219-6/fulltext
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...5-times-more-protective-than-natural-immunity
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...nfection-induced-immunity#What-the-team-found
https://www.science.org/content/art...-twice-suggesting-immunity-wanes-quickly-some

 

If they get vaccinated, their chances of being hospitalized/dying from Covid go from ZERO to ALMOST ZERO!

 

The Math agrees with me. You guys don't read your own studies.

This is directly from your 1st link as a note, your 2nd Link is of the same exact study:

"The study looked at data from nearly 190 hospitals in nine states. The researchers counted about 7,000 adult patients who were hospitalized this year with respiratory illnesses or symptoms similar to those of COVID-19. About 6,000 of them had been fully vaccinated with the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines three to six months before they wound up in a hospitals. The other 1,000 were unvaccinated but had been infected with COVID-19 three to six months earlier."​

That is a 6 X 1 superior results from Natural Immunity.

Here is your 3rd Link's headline - Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but vaccination remains vital

If we look at Israel, Ireland, UK, etc. that have 90%+ vaccination rates, we find that virtually ALL of the new Hospitalizations come from the vaccinated. The Math is pretty simple... you ought to try it.

 

If they had CV-19 their chances are EVEN BETTER!

You're welcome.

 

I was mocking the vaccine pushers.

 

Just to respond to a few misconceptions above, post is way too lengthy to go into everything, but why do you assume your "default position" is absolute, especially since Covid 19 is a novel virus? And as far as being "antiscience," it seems your postion falls along those lines:

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination
https://apnews.com/article/coronavi...ous-diseases-92c435268078edced2a22068feb4fb3c
https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...rotect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00219-6/fulltext
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...5-times-more-protective-than-natural-immunity
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...nfection-induced-immunity#What-the-team-found
https://www.science.org/content/art...-twice-suggesting-immunity-wanes-quickly-some

Secondly, Trump didn't come up with the vaccines, in fact, the vaccine Trump supported was the J+J vaccine that came out months later after the other two who did not take any funding from the Trump Administration. Operation Warp Speed was mostly hype, did set up a skeleton framework to deliver the vaccines to the States but did nothing in assisting the States in getting the vaccine out. As we saw with the shortage of vaccine in December and January, the Trump Administration was not ready

And natural immunity has become political, has been since the offset of the Covid, as it is here being used to combat Biden's vaccination mandates

 

Even your own source says that reinfection is rare. Mandates are not just anti-freedom, they are anti-science.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59207466

 

You've cherry picked phrases and taken them out of context from the sources, and as far as the UK, Ireland, and Israel:

"4 Charts show how Covid vaccines are working in the UK"
"The people admitted to hospital, the vast majority were unvaccinated. Hospitalization rates were more than twice as high in unvaccinated people across all age groups, compared to those who had received two doses of a vaccine.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/22/4-charts-show-how-covid-vaccines-are-working-in-the-uk-.html

"Number in hospital with the disease reaches highest level in seven months"
"“We are seeing a continuing increase in hospitalization and intensive care admissions – a substantial amount of whom are not fully vaccinated "
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/hea...aches-highest-level-in-seven-months-1.4711225

"How can efficacy vs severe disease be strong when 60% of hospitalized are vaccinated?"
https://www.covid-datascience.com/p...strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated