The mentality of socialism versus capitalism

You are the one that can't seem to follow mate -- attributing things to me that I did not say.

 

If you lived in Germany you should know better than to think its a socialist country.

Germany is a free market economy with wide-ranging social welfare programs.

Free market economy: Privately/Stockholder owned means of production (BMW, Volkswagen, Siemens, Bayer....) .

Socialism: Government owned and operated means of production.

Communism: Government owned and operated means of production + abolishment of private property.

The OP does not understand the concept, and apparently you don't understand it either.

 

I repeat, why are you bringing up teh subject of 'Socialism'. ?

 

Or more accurately there is no other way to make as much money. You can't tell me that blacks from poor neighborhoods can't achieve success in the U.S. Millions of them have. I know many of them and have hired some of them. But back to the point. Germany is not a socialist country. It is a capitalist country with a high level of government social spending and high taxes. This is true in most of Europe. That is why the European standard of living has always been inferior to ours for as long as I can remember.

 

I suppose it depends on what you mean by "standard of living"

Here is "quality of life" vs "standard of living".

Top 10 Countries* with the Highest Quality of Life, mid-2021 - Numbeo

1. Switzerland - 188.36
2. Denmark - 186.25
3. Netherlands - 180.27
4. Finland - 178.95
5. Australia - 178.41
6. Iceland - 177.64
7. Austria - 176.36
8. Germany - 175.24
9. New Zealand - 173.60
10. Luxembourg - 171.81

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country

 

Precisely. My description of standard of living is quite different than that of the article.

 

The article offers multiple views.

What it your definition?

Switzerland always seems to be in Top-3 no matter what view is used, while US is always close to top in "material well being".

 

The big one is personal freedom. It is the most important aspect of quality of life. I think Switzerland is great place to live as well. I have only visited but the life style there is impressive.

 

I think all Western countries rank high on personal freedom, but I guess we agree there are different ways to look at standard of living.

 

Sure bud, whatever you claim. Far be it from me to impose upon your right to proceed in error.

Carry on

 

What error .. what is this steaming pile of purposeless accusation ? ..not even stating what this mysterious error you figure exists is.

 

I tell you this why don't you go back to where you interjected yourself into the conversation pixie and I were having and try to figure it out from there

 

Go away if you have nothing to say.

 

You never answered the question why do you think black people have little job prospects?

It seems as though you're also displaying the soft bigotry of low expectations.

Do you also think black folks obtaining id's is particularly difficult for them?

I wonder how they drive or have jobs or bank accounts?

 

For NOW. But they're working hard to make that history.

 

Hmmm ...

 

Okay now crank I may have come in on the tail end of this conversation but I have to say this....

You can't just cherry pick the worst picture and the best picture and apply it shows the entire picture.

You should see the view from my front porch, a large Orange Grove right across the street.


Today and tonight actually is one of my days off so I went fishing today for the first time in quite some time with someone I care for deeply.

We went to several places of about 20 mi away. I took a lot of the back roads because I've lived here a while and I've explored many of them.

She was unaware of many of those routes. I wish I could have taken more pictures so I could share them.

I would never live in some crap hole ruled by Blue politicians.

I'm sure they're very beautiful areas of Europe just as well as there are cesspool areas, much like the USA

 

I can't lie .. it's true. I did cherry pick!

Having said that, that first street scene is not something you're going to find easily in Europe. There are 'slummy' areas of course, but they're much tamer than that. EG this is considered very bad/poor area in the UK:

 

France, ah yes where Pol Pot learned totalitarianism at its finest.

 

Around here, a " traffic jam " on the back roads, might involve a tractor, some loose livestock and a vehicle.

It's nice to drive a few miles and see only a cow or three and some groves...maybe pass another car or truck.

 

Snice you were the first to being up the example and AFAIK I never said it was the only way black people could make money, please quote something I DID post in support of your contentious and provocative post.
Please don't either misquote me, make assumptions about what I mean (I will clearly tell you what I mean if you ask) or try to manoeuvre me into some position I do not hold.
The subject is the difference between socialism and capitalism, not whether black people have to sell drugs. You are changing the subject again.
BTW one of the celebrities in the UK I admire most is Marcus Rashford. Look him up.

 

ISTM Fatback is experienced in this. Something to do with reading comprehension?

 

No one said "the only thing they can do is selling drugs".
Otherwise FB would quote the phrase directly.
Further, this is way off topic. If FB wants to know what motivates someone to sell drugs he should spend a day reading accredited explanations on on his computer.

 

I have never told you blacks rom poor neighbourhoods can't achieve success in the US, or anywhere else. FB said I said it and I object greatly to his "assumption" about what I post when he can't be bothered to read much of it.

If Germany has a high level of taxation and spending, that puts it towards the socialist end of the economic spectrum...but only slightly. I doubt there is a "socialist" country on the planet that isn't in fact a mixed economy.
As for the inferior standard of living, I would have to ask you how you define that. Because mine doesn't involve income and expenditure.

 

I am happy for anyone to interject. It is called freedom of speech. Do you not approve of it?