Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

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Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

  1. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Israel.

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  2. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Palestine.

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  3. I have no reason to believe that some US and British media outlets are biased on Israel & Paelstine.

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  4. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in either direction.

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  1. Pixie

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    Because for a long time Netanyahu , a true Zionist as was his father, has been designing Israel's foreign (and in fact all) policy as the Prime Minister.

    If you don't give a damn about international law, you don't give a damn about the survival of the planet.

    No. But I understand it.
     
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    What's the connection between international law and the survival of the planet?
     
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    Example...crossing national borders with military menace.
    It is against international law.
    If that were not the case, there would be eternal and terminally destructive wars.

    And the UN is where disputes are discussed and often settled.

    Overview of the work the UN does is tagged across the top of the page in grey.

    https://www.un.org/en/our-work/

    Under International law is explained:
    The UN Charter, in its Preamble, set an objective: "to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained". Ever since, the development of, and respect for international law has been a key part of the work of the Organization.

    This work is carried out in many ways - by courts, tribunals, multilateral treaties - and by the Security Council, which can approve peacekeeping missions, impose sanctions, or authorize the use of force when there is a threat to international peace and security, if it deems this necessary. These powers are given to it by the UN Charter, which is considered an international treaty. As such, it is an instrument of international law, and UN Member States are bound by it.
     
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    I very much doubt it "thoroughly discredited itself" and is still very much respected.
    By most, though perhaps not by those with a vested interest.
     
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    So nothing about "survival of the planet."
     
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    IMO those things ensure the survival of the planet.
    Continual warfare using nuclear weapons in conflicts concerning borders and military buildups tells me so. There is already enough tension around that right now.
     
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    There are terrorists on both sides. Indeed, many governments are run by crooks and terrorists, not just the Tel Aviv or US governments.
     
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    Specifically, the Iraq war.

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003
     
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    All media is biased in some way.
     
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    There are LOTS of Holocaust threads, please stop spamming unrelated threads with your Holocaust Denial propaganda.
     
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    Mainstream/left media tends to serve as tools for Palestinian propaganda. Their sympathies lie with the Palestians. Personally I think that most people on the left (except the jews themselves) have contempt for jews. I think it's innate and a spiritual situation.

    Our media is mostly left.. I think having powerful democrat leaders in office, helps tamper some of that bias down...not because they use their power against the media but because most media is of the democratic party and don't want to weaken the leadership.
     
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    I am curious what gives you that impression. Is it just Israel (which isn't synonymous with Jews In would say or is there more to it than the Israel issue?
     
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    AIPAC wanted the US to attack Iran because Israel considered Iran's nuclear programme to be a threat.
    Bush et al went after Iraq instead and Israel had to be content with that.
     
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    I suspect so.
     
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    Israel Is Real. I Slam Islam. Atheists are at heists. Catholics are addicted to cats.
     
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    Oops. I screwed up that paragraph while typing into my phone. Hope you can all tell what I meant to ask.
     
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    That's a good summary of what happened and an excellent example of the degree to which Right Wing Israeli lobbies control US Mid East policy
     
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    did the Israelis lobby the USA to have the UN declare the settlements illegal and a violation of international law?

    how about having Secretary of State John Kerry attack the settlements as a massive obstacle to peace?

    seems "Israeli control of US policy" isn't exactly on solid ground. :p
     
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    Israel has been demanding that the USA attack Iran, for years. Decades. Still hasn't happened. Seems the Israelis have zero control over that one.

    the Iran nuclear deal? Israel hated that too. And now the USA is trying to negotiate a new one. Israeli control of the USA seems pretty flimsy.
     
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    Try to name just one other country whose lobbies have managed to extract over $ 3 Trillion as of 2002 at the same time it sells US secrets to China.


    "Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China"
    https://www.military.com/defensetec...srael-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china

    EXCERPT "Israel has a long record of getting U.S. military technology to China.

    In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade.

    More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, The Associated Press reported in 2002."CONTINUED
     
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    By 2020, the USA has given around $146 billion in aid to Israel, since 1949.

    Your $3 trillion figure, is baseless silliness. If you add up all the aid budgeted to Israel since 1949, the figure is around $146 billion.

    Jeeeez....

    https://sgp.fas.org/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf




    hmm, looks like the number may be $243.9 billion, when adjusted for inflation.

    https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the-us-give-to-israel/

    but still not $1 trillion, or even $3 trillion.

    LOLOL
     
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    Your absurd figure of $146 Billion conveniently omits grants, forgiven "loans", preferential contracting, loan guarantees, "Joint" projects, the war for AIPAC (1), the costs for "Project Independence",(2) and special trade allowances to name just a few hidden costs of Israel to Americans in blood and resources.

    At least Netanyahu in a brief moment of honesty accurately assessed the true nature of the US - Israel "alliance":

    Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” -- Benjamin Netanyahu



    (1) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


    (2) "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion"
    https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
     
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    well, I gotta say, this is something else!!!!

    according to WRMEA, Israel is responsible for the following:

    foreign aid to Greece, Turkey, Lebanon, Sudan, Ethiopia, Afghanistan, Eritrea, the Caucus nations, Somalia, and other southwest asian nations.

    Israel is also responsible for all of America's oil costs, including the Strategic Oil Reserve.

    Israel is also responsible for America's military protection of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.

    the Gulf War? where the USA forbid Israel from responding to Scud missile attacks upon their civilians and left Saddam Hussein in charge of Iraq? that's Israel's fault too.

    Israel is also responsible for the costs to the USA incurred by the Iranian Revolution. And the Iran-Iraq War.

    Wow. That's some utter bullshit nonsense.

    Not sure how any rational, thinking, logical person could think that all these things are Israel's fault.

    LOL!!!!!! damn Grau, that's some funny shiit. Thanks for the laugh.

    [​IMG]

    :p
     
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    So without AIPAC, the US would not have invaded Iraq?
     

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