Why the Right and Left hate each other

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  1. cabse5

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    Well, you don't know what constitutes a love or hatred of capitalism or socialism.:roll:
     
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    Makes sense to me.

    I don't know how certain fundamental principles and logic can be escaped by these people, but they obviously are.

    The concept of socialism, boiled down to it's foundation, is that we all live off each other- we are all parasites, preying on one another. That condition is self-destructive in the long run, of everything we hold dear and worth living for- and ultimately of life itself for a people.

    Taking something that is destructive on a small scale doesn't become viable on a large scale. Our society is the sum of it's people and their strengths and values. If they have neither, they become parasites.... thus every effort to destroy peoples pride and spirit, every effort to transfer individual responsibility to the overall society weakens not only the people, but the society some think of as a separate entity and benefactor.

    Think of a society as a house we build and live in.
    People are the building blocks of society- the individual bricks of a structure, so to speak.
    The relationships between us are the mortar that holds us together and gives the society combined strength.

    Each individual brick in a solid structure must be fired, be strong and solid- or it contributes weakness rather than strength.
    Until that happens, it is not a brick- it is a lump of clay mud. It has no strength, nor can it bond well to anything that does.
    The mortar, the relationships and values which bonds the bricks to common cause must also be strong- and they must be fair; or it cannot combine the strength of the bricks, and thereby the wall they comprise..
    Unless both of these conditions exist, the structure you build will fall apart due to it's own weaknesses.

    WE can chose how we build our house- and only a fool builds his house with mud blocks.
     
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    Well, the bolded shows you have the bigoted part down real well.
     
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    You are seeing thigs. It is the left that ALWAYS cries RACE!
     
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    Golem.....you don't need to hide it anymore. Those days of you on the left being "stealth" are over. University professors and even some in the Senate and House are not shy about their affiliations anymore!
     
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    I nailed it!
     
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    We could go back and forth accusing each other of that. The truth is the 1/2 of America, and more, that you've been programed to hate, loves this Country as much as you do.
     
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    No, the right is just on the other wrong side.
     
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    Yes, baloney to the wall.
     
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    If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck, even if it calls itself and maybe thinks it's a progressive goose, BLM, or a leftist Democrat.
    BLM wants to kill cops per their marching mantra.
     
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    Our binary political system is the problem.

    There isn't any consistent philosophy that links the positions held currently by the left and right in the United States.

    There is no party for someone who is pro life and pro gun control.

    There is no party for someone who is pro choice and pro 2nd amendment.

    We have been pigeonholed into our views because of the two party system. We have to either choose a Number 1 or a number 2 and take all the side items that come with those bundles whether we like them or not.
     
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    For the same reason a man fights to the bitter end against the burning and robbing of his house and dire threats to his family. That would be most men of course.
     
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    That's bullshit if you're conflating your hatred of more than half of your countrymen in to robbing your house.
     
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    so you're pro-choice?
     
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    Which is meaningless if you don't know what a duck IS.
     
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    No, not anywhere near 1/2, but a fair number of politically effective elites.
     
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    Spot on.

    And inappropriate shootings are gong to happen in any society that tolerates violence or violent people. However, "disproportionate" is only a relevant metric when the things that put people in that position are proportionate. Unfortunately- the odds of a criminal being black or violent are disproportionate to their population as well, thus they are more likely to be exposed to that risk. The nature of conduct creates the ratio
    and that determines if the issue is proportionate or not.

    Per justice department data- A white person is 42 times more likely to be criminally assaulted by a black person than a black person is to be assaulted by a white person. The commonality of aggression results in disproportionate confrontation with law enforcement.

    The allegation that people's decisions and perceptions are influenced by color is true. But that is not necessarily racism. The probability of conduct of any category of people as a whole will influence the way they are seen as individuals, because they are part of the whole group hat. With the assault ratio stated above, when you encounter a black person, even in passing- part of our perception will be related to that behavioral pattern; what we think could happen. That's suspicion- but not racism because it's not based on the color alone, but on what that color indicates behavior is likely to be. It would be the same if black dogs were 42 time more likely to bite you than non-black dogs- you would be foolish to ignore that risk. Attitude alone is a primary issue. If a person stopped for a traffic issue is aggressive and abusive, the risk of that situation becoming violent is significantly higher- thus attitude alone can precipitate what will be labeled as racism. Every black that's ranting and threatening is re-enforcing that negative image. While laws may limit what people say, they will not alter what people think. Our black community has been given a great deal of support to overcome the history of racism by whites - and quite successfully; but until the black community decides to put racism down and improve it's behavioral image and attitudes, it's unlikely to change further. I think it's very much up to them at this point.
     
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    I know what a duck is, what a bicycle is, and what a marxist (little m) or marxist-like is.
     
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    The results of the last election say otherwise.
     
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    Except BLM is not political like that, many members vote republican, and even support Trump.
    Iv worked with more then a couple.

    They 100% support the family structure, they were against many democratic policies. Even attacking Biden on TV.
     
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    You fall for too much propaganda.
    That's not even true, but you seem like the type to fall for headlines as the main story.
    Rioters are not representative of the entire party now are they?
     
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    The unborn are citizens with a right to liberty.
     
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    Examine it's founders.....Marxists who own several properties.
     
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    Where did you get the idea the BLM support a good (my word, you didn't say it) family structure?

    When you teach your kids that the world owes them a living because of their color, that looting is rightful reparations and arson is peaceful protest...
    you grossly handicap them; and BLM demonstrates and embodies that openly. The percentage of kids in single-parent situation is double for blacks what it is for whites. The number of kids born to single parents and the number of abortions for blacks exceed those for whites and others by a wide margin; the facts and data say they are the poorest at family structure and cohesion. What they say and what they do are not consistent- and what they do says they aren't what they say they are.
     
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    Too bad it doesn't work.
     

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