Why the Right and Left hate each other

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  1. Cybred

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    I doubt it.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nope, cells in a petri dish are not citizens, in fact if you try to take a tax write off on them, wont work out so well

    but you were doing so good, almost there

    if the government forcing rape victim to have their rapists baby is not government overreach, nothing is
     
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    Why?
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So you're the kind that doesn't like your viewpoints being challenged that's all Fox News and Rush Limbaugh did.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really.....I wonder what the small percentage of abortions from rape you describe is compared to abortions of convenience? Oh, by the way, you just called the unborn a baby! Thought it was just a bundle of cells? You just don't want to admit you side with "baby killers". I understand. You better get your vocabulary in line with the callous individuals who clamour for "baby killing"!
     
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    yep, if you're forced to have it, it will be a baby, cells in a petri dish or the womb are not a baby

    it's like miking the ingredients for a cake in a bowl and calling it a cake, it's the ingredients for a cake and if baked, may come out of the oven as a cake, but until then, it's a potential cake
     
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    Is your strawman of a post I quoted pertinent to anything?
     
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    Pains it for me to say that the meme isn't correct. The Constitution was approved to enlarge the power of federal gov't, er, gave federal gov't much more power than its predecessor The Articles of Confederation because a lesser role of the federal gov't created by The Articles of Confederation created chaos in the American republic. The meme is only referring to a small portion of The Constitution called the Bill of Rights, for example, (which libertarians like Rand Paul exhalt) and not the whole of The Constitution.

    The founders wanted limited power for the federal gov't but subsequent court interpretations of The Constitution and amendments to The Constitution have given more and more power to federal gov't as the years pass in America which would probably make most founders (even Washington and Hamilton, for examples) roll in their graves.
     
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    Actually that's white nationalists. BLM just wants accountability for murderers that are never charged. All that other garbage you just made up. Especially since not all BLM members are even black or American. The movement is world wide.
    Not only that, the stats show less people are having kids period, single parent or not.

    Trump supporters are in no position to criticize. What you type is not representative of all BLM members but it is representative of white nationalist and Trump supporters playing victim cards.
     
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    When it has a beating heart, all the ingredients are there.....it is a baby just as you mistakenly said.
     
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    Well there are those of us that want to "hold the line" and strike down "activist court interpretations". We don't like the Founders "rolling in their graves!" Rand Pau explained it quite well!
     
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    Victim cards? Hell, that is the sum total definition of the BLM and black racists position.
    So all BLM supporters are not black? Irrelevant to the point. It's not the color of supporters that makes BLM what it is, but the actions and beliefs. You get on their bus, you are going where they're going.
    It's true that less people are having kids. Also- irrelevant to the point at hand. The point was the percentage- not the sum total.

    When BLM speaks to murders "never charged", they are speaking primarily to blacks killed by police. They don't give a damn why- if they can make it appear racist, they do it.
    However, they do their best to insure black criminals are never charged. They want two kinds of justice- based on exemption for their color. THAT IS RACiSM.

    IF BLM cared about the murder of black people- they would turn to those who murder the most black people, by far.... and that IS black people.
    In the FBI Expanded Homicide table 3 below- note:

    That while blacks are only 13% of the population, they commit 45% of all murders- almost 4 times their proportionate share.
    That 89% of the murders of black people ARE COMMITTED BY BLACK PEOPLE.
    Less than 10% of the murders of black people are committed by white people- despite their being over 6 times as many whites as blacks.


    This data makes a very clear statement, and identifies the truth about responsibility for the murders of black Americans.

    This IS NOT COLOR. IT'S CULTURE- how a group of people think, how they raise their children to think, what they value, including themselves.
    Without question the most likely person to be your enemy regardless of your race- IS YOURSELF. When a culture, a group of people share similar levels of negative beliefs, it's going to hurt them all.
    Things are not like they were 100 years ago- the major thing holding blacks back today is their own beliefs and the failure of too many of them to embrace positive change within the culture.
    I admire a number of black people, just as I do people in all races. I also have scorn for many people in all races. You are respectable when you earn respect, when you accept responsibility for yourself, when you go about making life better for yourself and your family, when you contribute rather than feed on your society-
    but not when you go around demanding people pay you for being black or being poor of being unhappy or having made mistakes you don't think should have consequence.


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    None of that means murder of black people is justified. Your false representation of statistics only means you are not competent to evaluate statistics to form any sort of policy.
    You are out of touch simple as that.
     
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    nope, you are mistaken

    http://www.slate.com/id/2120872/
    "a member of President Bush's Council on Bioethics, describes in his book The Ethical Brain, current neurology suggests that a fetus doesn't possess enough neural structure to harbor consciousness until about 26 weeks, when it first seems to react to pain. Before that, the fetal neural structure is about as sophisticated as that of a sea slug and its EEG as flat and unorganized as that of someone brain-dead."
     
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    which part did I fall for what propaganda and what part is not true: the quack like a duck part or the BLM marching mantra part? Or both??
    I never said they were. My assertion was the rioters got continence from and were supported by much of the Democrat elites, and tolerated by some of the Democrat base.
     
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    Its called sympathizing for the cause and being a human being.
    If BLM stood for what you thought it did, then you may have a point but it does not so you do not have a point.
    I see why the right dislikes the left so much, most have been fed nothing but propaganda. And most are gullible enough to swallow it whole.
     
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    I have not seen any indication that you do. "Marxist-like"? Probably one of the most "marxist-like" people in this country is Trump.
     
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    What you mean is I don't agree with you, and you think you are "in touch". The entire problem for the left is just like that. they think that what they think is real, constitutes the primary picture and nothing else matters.

    And it has nothing to do with justification, not did I say that. It has to do with which issues are huge and getting ignored, shaded by the focus on a problem of much smaller magnitude. A problem yes- but hardly the real reason behind the larger picture. Rather- what they point a finger at and want to use to bury those numbers, which damn sure are legit.

    But.... You know that.
     
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    Actually their not.
     
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    Curious, how should one show sympathy and act human toward a serial killer or bank robber for instance? Not prosecute them? Provide them bail money? Accuse the federal agents trying to stop them of being "storm troopers"? (direct Pelosi quote) Defund the police? Etc, etc, etc?
    IF?? "What do we want? DEAD COPS! When do we want 'em? NOW!" Or, "Pigs in a blanket fryin' like bacon." Nice pointed marching ditties if you ask me.
    That is simply devoid of any rationality and is nothing but an ignorant meme.
     
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    Now you've gone from the rationale but incorrect to the ridiculous. Good way to kill a halfway decent discussion. For the record, Trump is probably one of the most marxist-unlike people in the country.
     
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    Can you point to any misrepresentation of any statistic by @spiritgide, or are you just blowing smoke out your butt?
     
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    No constitution works if the people and the law don't follow it.
     
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    Precisely.

    Our constitution is excellent, and we have rules of conduct for those in office- good rules. What's missing enforcement of those rules, which makes them nothing more than cosmetics.
    The government of the United States works FOR the people, not vice versa. What we need is a way- a direct way- for We the People to enforce those rules, to remove those who violate them. Not talking about political, but the ethical, the part of doing the job they are paid to do honestly. Working on that...
     
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    If the unborn are already citizens, then an egg or sperm is a half-citizen and failure to merge them is some kind of crime, right?
    A 2x4 is a house, too, just incomplete....

    Common sense has become almost extinct.
     
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