Unsigned Trump order told Pentagon to seize voting machines

Lol is the National archives fake news now according to the extremist right.

 

Read the first sentence of the document.

 

Maybe you should read it. The first sentence does not state "I Donald Trump wrote this document" or anything close to that. And if it did, your claim would only be supported by a circular logic fallacy. Asserting that Donald Trump writes legal documents is absurd. Asserting that the President of the United States actually personally drafts, i.e., creates the wording, of anything other than Tweets and the like is absurd.

 

So his advisors wrote this behind his back?

 

Firstly, I don't discount that this document was created by opposition and planted in the Archives by opponents.

How do you know one of his advisors wrote it?

How do you know who wrote it?

And the way things work in any high level Government job is this -- advisors will have multiple and alternate plans/documents prepared in advance of any decision making meeting. Cause advisors that cannot present alternative are worthless.

This draft order, if it was real, was not signed by Trump. So what conclusions do you draw from that fact?

 

LOL, you guys always spin the greatest fairy stories.

 

By the authority vested in me as President of the United States pursuant to the Constitution and laws of the United States of America....

As you answer, you trap yourself in smaller and smaller boxes.

You go from 'this document is fake' to 'he probably never saw it' to 'he didn't write it himself'.

The next step is to claim that Trump is too stupid to write a piece of legislation.

Your position is ridiculous.

Trump dictated the document, as all the POTUS do, and he was surrounded by a bunch of lawyers when he wrote it.

This document, like the others, ended up in the national archives and Trump did everything he could to keep the 1/6 commission from getting his hands on it.

Fortunately, SCOTUS proved him wrong.

 

No way he wrote that. Who did?

It's national gaurd, which is under the control of the state in conjunction with the federal government. Ballot machines are state property no private. It's for the purpose of investigation and reporting potential hacking from foreign governments, not for investigating individual fraud of usa citizens.

 

You don't seem to understand how legal documents work.

Lawyers, realtors, medical providers, prepare documents with your name already in it saying you agree to (fill in blank). You did not prepare the document or necessarily even request it, but if you sign it, it means you agree with it.

 

You don't seem to understand that no one at the WH has the right to write this kind of document without the approval of the POTUS.

 

Just like those other nests of commie spies, the New York Times the Wall Street Journal and Reuters

 

So do you, but in yours the Wicked Witch is always the Innocent Princess.

 

Says you?

Let me summarize all rational arguments relating to this:

Notice, if you want to keep me from voting Trump 2024, you have to prove C.



1) There is no proof that this document is real and I don't trust Politico
2) There is no proof that Trump requested it
3) There is no violation of anyone's constitutional rights, and the order fits within the duties of the president to protect us from foreign threats
4) The fact that he didn't sign it, is indicating
... A) he never saw this document
... B) information was verified to be false relating to foreign threats and this document was abandoned
... C) Trump failed to sign it, out of influence or negligence, therefore betrayed the his duty to the American people and is not fit for re-election

 

Unsigned... well that makes this a non-story. In other words, Trump did not approve it.

OMG! The outrage! He's didn't sign it! Peach Mints 4.0!!!!!

 

The fact that this was considered makes it a story.

 

It may be a story but it still belongs in the fantasy section.

 

You are making a giant assumption. You don't even know if it was ever presented to him... and if it was... he didn't sign it. How does this simple logic escape the Left?

Nothing Burger 32,1421.0

 

It was being discussed among Trump advisors and Trump. They would not make a document if it was not being seriously considered. I don't think anyone would take the time ti plant a fake document. If they are going to break into the National Archives, why not go big and fake a document about Trump bribery or illegally taking bribes?

The document is similar to the powerpoint by mark meadows which is in possession of Congress. This letter is legitimate.

It's one thing to have discussion, but to actually put it on paper as an executive order just shows how serious they were about it.

 

His legal problems are just beginning ......in earnest. And rightly so. Long overdue.

 

Anything that is factual and that they don't want to hear.......is "fake "' news. to them. The "right' has changed a lot since The Trump effect......... and seem to have lost their creditably and bearings. ........They used to be a party of values ... They seem to have lost that by adopting the dogma of Donald.

The more information that comes out........the more they will defend the indefensible.

 

Shows Trump at the very least had surrounded himself with some pretty f***ed up people that such a document was even considered.
It shows the Constitution and rule of law meant nothing to them if they got in the way.

There are hundreds of Republicans that could be run for the next election - the fact that Republicans are seriously thinking of
running Trump again after this is really messed up.

We need a viable third party in this country - the two we have are completely dysfunctional.

 

The the other parties are dysfunctional. No one smart will run third party. Smart moderates run in the democrat or republican party. Like Trump who used to be a Democrat
Seriously Tulsi should run republican next time.

 

The fact that it was even under consideration is a huge deal. The country was one signature away from military intervention in overturning an election.

That should disqualify him from any consideration for political office. Every patriot should turn their back on him. Denounce him.

 

Oh! So the national archives are in the business of making fake documents now?



If you are having to say “fake fake fake” over and over again of documents that have come from national archives then either hundreds of people are wrong or…..

 

No he dictates them