Unsigned Trump order told Pentagon to seize voting machines

Nothing more adorable than shifting the goalposts. I never said anything about an EO to do so. So why are you desperate the change the terms of the claim? We both know why. And he didn't just request investigations. Read the Eastman memo. I know you won't, but I at least have to ask you to try. It has NOTHING to do with just "requesting it be investigated." Go ahead. Try to read it.

 

Your claims have no teeth. You are going on and on about a claim that had no witnesses and no promised evidence by Schiff himself to provide his whistle blower. And every witness Schiff did provide said they NEVER heard Trump make that claim.
So what do you want from me. Your argument is with Schifty Schiff.

 

The White House confirmed the phone calls happened.

 

Why are you now talking about a "claim"? That's not what I said. Why are you trying to change the subject? (Well, let's fact it, we both know why)?

I'll try to break this down into something easier to understand (even though I'm just repeating myself):
* Zelenski brought up additional aid (this is an objective fact)
* Trump responded by saying he wants a personal "favor though" (this is also an objective fact)

 

I didn't ask for just an EO, I asked for ANYTHING where Trump asked the election to be reversed.

Now if you want to shift the conversation to Pence, I am glad to oblige.
It was a very dumb call. And I am glad Pence held to account his duty. He made the right decision and I hope other VPs will stick by their guns as Pence did.
Asking Pence to throw out electors in contested states is idiotic.

 

So, after soliciting campaign aid from Russians in 2016, and after trying to withhold military aid from Ukraine unless they gave him campaign help, Trump entertained the idea of using the US military to seize voting machines so as to prove the election was stolen by China, Venezuela, and aliens.

wow, such a swell guy.

 

Trump demanded the Governor and Secr of State in Georgia find enough votes to flip in his favor, so he could win.

 

But then you forgot the rest of the story, didn't you

Trump did NOT refuse to send aid to Zelenski and Zelenski didn't have anything more to offer Trump.

 

Trump released the aid after his phone call became big news.

he didnt want to be impeached for bribery

 

Start with the Eastman memo if you want (which was far from the actual start).

Shift to Pence? Dude, where have you been? Have you literally not looked into even a sliver of this? Pressuring Pence WAS PART OF HIS ATTEMTPS TO REVERSE THE ELECTION.

. . . So why defend Trump's attempts to reverse the election by doing so?

 

You know the call was recorded, right.
Did you want to provide the portion where you claim Trump demanded this?

 

Trump HAD withheld the aid (which his own WH described as likely illegal), and it doesn't matter if Zelenski couldn't deliver on Trump's personal favor request. HE STILL MADE IT. "Your honor, this doesn't really count as soliciting a bribe because it turns out they weren't able to pay" For ****'s sake, really?

 

This is where the left and right separate. ON ALL ACCOUNTS.
I am not defending Trump. I am pointing out the HYPOCRISY of the media and left claims
To include the hyperbole of all these new claims based on a draft of an EO.

I wish Trump would go to prison so the left will quit regurgitating him in every thread.

 

When you hold Biden to the same account, you let us know.

 

So what your telling me is Schiff and Pelosi were too stupid to prove it

 

You are only pointing to hypocrisy to defend the hypocrisy of Trumpists.

 

For what? There's a reason I didn't vote for the guy. If you have something comparable, bring it up!

 

they did prove it.

but the MAGA lemmings in the Senate were too loyal to their God-King Trump, then to hold him accountable for his crime of attempted bribery

 

Trump withheld aid to Ukraine, in order to pressure them to help him with his BS conspiracy theory about Biden and the DNC servers.

Trump finally released the aid when his criminal scheme was discovered.

 

They did, lets count the ways they proved it

FAIL #1
Their number 1 STAR witness (The whistle blower) who had all the goodies on Trump, that Schiff said he would produce, was nowhere to be found. He just disappeared. Never questioned, never testified, never backed up his own claims
FAIL #2
All 12 witnesses Schiff produced as first hand witnesses, all claimed (without exception) they actually never heard Trump say that. They heard it from someone else
FAIL #3
Everyone who was on the call claimed it never happened
FAIL #4
Zelenski claimed it never happened
FAIL #5
NOTHING in the call transcript was supported by any claim made by Schiff
FAIL #6
Would be when Schiff elaborated on his fake rendition of what was said on the call
FAIL #7
Since Democrats couldn't prove their case to the Senate, they demanded that the Senate hold a trial with witnesses

So tell us all, what was this AMAZING evidence you claim proved beyond a shadow of any doubt of your quid pro quo claim that the Senate just decided to overlook?

 

Biden makes a public quid pro quo with Ukraine on national TV and you have no clue about that?
Funny how that works, huh

 

Except he didn't. He never asked for a personal favor. Trump did. Biden pressured Ukraine for OFFICIAL US POLICY, WHICH WAS ALSO THE POLICY ADVOCATED BY ALL OF OUR ALLIES. The US and all of our allies wanted that guy fired, and no, he wasn't investigating Biden's son. And, no Biden never asked for a personal favor. Trump explicitly did. Funny how facts work, huh?

 

Yet thousands of fake debunked claims from the left over 5 years has cost CNN and MSNBC over 80% of their viewership and you know nothing about that.
How convenient for you

 

Yeah, we all heard that old debunked deflection garbage as well. Which is why you has to ramble through it.
Sorry, no sale

 

I'm not interested in your attempts to evade. But keep running away if you have to. I'm not CNN or MSNBC. If you tire of running, you can meet me back here at the topic at any time.