is it fair for the jan 6 committee to subpoena a senior advisor to the president?

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  1. Noone

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    So to summarize, you don't have an argument; pathetic.
     
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    He's not pretending to care. That's *the* problem. They don't care what he did or does to stomp our Constitution.

    He told me several months ago that I was mistaken about all of his lawsuits and said all those people were lying about him and he just settled the cases to end the litigation so...nothing you say will make a difference.

    I haven't seen any of them discuss the court forcing Trump to return donations his website took out of people's bank accounts without permission. That alone shows he's no good. Why would the court have to MAKE him to do that when the money should have never been taken in the first place?. I've searched high and low and I have not found even one thing that shows he might have something other than sludge where the rest of us have our souls.

    He is the antithesis of everything our country is supposed to stand for and it's sickening how they claim he is such a strong leader but they pounce on anybody that calls that into question. That's NOT loyalty. It's dysfunction.
     
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  3. Rampart

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    he has been beaten soundly at the polls and rejected completely by every decent person in america.

    every one of trump's problems was caused only by himself, and could have been avoided by hiring competent people instead of his in laws and fellow grifters.
     
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    We have had that investigation by law enforcement. Congress is banned from engaging in law enforcement. Nor are theyvallowed to use their powers to "vindicated" people of crimes. But are you claiming this is Trumps GREAT COUP, eleven idiots were sent to DC and they were going to make sure he remained President?
     
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  5. independentthinker

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    Who is president? Biden took office just when he was supposed to and Trump left. However, it is democrats who are trying to stop democracy by taking Trump out of the picture so voters can't vote for him,
     
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    I don't see where the election was reversed. Trump lost, left office, and Biden came in.
     
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    Do you believe voters should have the right to choose who they vote for?
     
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    Every day, it seems, we are learning more about the lengths to which people went to ensure Trump stayed POTUS. Guiliani is just the most recent. The Committee is doing their job and doing it well - they will find out if this event was coordinated. And by whom.
     
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    So to summarize, you don't have an argument; pathetic.
     
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    That's what votes are for. Do you believe Trump has the right to invalidate 5 states worth of votes to try to remain in power despite the will of the voters?
     
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    And it was legal..... why do we keep rehashing old news..
     
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    You missed the word "attempted." Trump lost and Biden came in because Trump's plot to reverse the election failed.
     
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    Biden took office when he was supposed to because Trump's attempt to end democracy failed. No one in US history has done more than Trump to try to reverse an election.
     
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    Ramp, the other day I was thinking about that. I don't get how they will shout from the rafters that black and brown people "are always playing the victim"; not an ounce of trying to understand what they go through every day of their lives but we're all supposed to think Trump was a strong leader? This dude literally walked out of a Summit because some other world leaders were gossiping about him! Yeah, he's rough and tough. I guess his bone spurs were hurting that day. <smdh>

    And you better believe IF anybody else on this planet...*

    * Monday morning quarterback on Biden's every move. Obama didn't do that to him. My response to that is "Yeah, Biden kinda sucks but I'd take a seeming senile old man who is basically harmless over a damn lunatic that orchestrated a skeleton crew, billions in military equipment and released 5,000 other psychopaths onto our soldiers and allies and knowingly kissed Xi's butt all through 2020. Biden might be senile. But, Trump is psychotic.

    * Literally forcing his suck-ups to write law that people can't be banned for different political opinions. His dumbass wasn't banned for that. He started a riot at our Capitol with our elected leaders in the building and refused to call for back-up. All the social media giants aren't crazy. Why in the world would they give him free reign to spread his toxins and get people threatened with death (Pence) and hundreds of people injured (the Capitol police officers they beat like crazy)? Nobody sane would even think of giving him a platform for that!

    Can you tell me why they are so hush-hush on their Orange Jesus turning his back on Capitol rioters? It kinda has that feel like a mistress to another woman's husband thinking "he won't cheat if he's married to me." They are even cool with that. He cheated on all his wives and the vapid lesbian porn model with a hooker. Beyond nasty!

    He was right. He could kill somebody and not lose any supporters. I would be ashamed to publicly defend him after he refused to pay Giuliani (he needs money to go to a salon for real hair dye) and distanced himself from his own supporters now in prison. That's messed up. How can they be cool with that? Those people traveled across the country and committed crimes FOR HIM.

    It's just sickening at this point. It really is.
     
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    I don't remember where he invalidated 5 states worth of votes. Could you please show where he invalidated even one person's vote? The way I remember it is, Biden won the election, Trump left office, and Biden became president.
     
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    WTF; now were playing: I know you are but who am I.???? I almost feel sorry for you but, that's what happens when you try to prop up a criminal.

    To go back to the beginning:

    America should be 100% "anti-tRumpers"; the SOB brought a mob to Washington and they attacked the Capitol, and wiped **** on it's walls. -duh!
     
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    And Trump remained in office for four years because democrat's efforts to end democracy failed.
     
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    He failed in his attempt to invalidate them. As I've said multiple times now. Biden became president and Trump left office AFTER Trump tried to overthrow the election. Remember?
     
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  19. Patricio Da Silva

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    They are not children.

    Given that fact, and their proximity to the President in his endeavors, their testimony is relevant and just.
     
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    Dems made no effort to end democracy. If they had succeeded in impeaching and removing him, which would have required massive bipartisan support, it would not have resulted in the election being reversed. The other winner of the election would have become president. Per the Constitution, which apparently Trump's supporters (like Trump himself) have never bothered to read.
     
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    I disagree insofar as to investigations.
    If 'consolidation of power' really concerns you , you should support the 1/6 committee, because it is that very phenomenon they
    are investigating, the right's schemes to consolidate their power by non democratic means.
    Majority rule is the nature of democracy. If everything required a supermajority, nothing would ever get done.

    This is not partisan, there are two republicans on the committee who are committed to excellence and integrity of process.

    Republicans, by their bickering, are the ones who are partisan.
     
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    Justice is not a popularity contest.

    If it were, there would be no justice.

    You are miffed because it appears the guilty people are your people.

    We can't help that. Perhaps you should associate with a group who do not countenance overthrowing governments.
     
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    You seem to be against letting voters decide who they are going to vote for. In other words, you are for vote suppression.
     
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    Just as democrats failed to remove a legitimately elected president after the 2016 election.
     
  25. yardmeat

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    I understand your desperation to shift the goalposts and desperately scramble to change the subject.
     

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