is it fair for the jan 6 committee to subpoena a senior advisor to the president?

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  1. independentthinker

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    LOL. Well, they had Jill Stein, who had no chance of winning, ask for recounts in several states. Democrats tried to get electors to be faithless, and committed perjury in courts in order to start the whole Russian collusion hoax. Then they tried to impeach Trump twice, knowing there was not enough evidence for the Senate to convict. Now they are trying to take Trump out of the picture so that voters will be unable to vote for who they want to vote for.
     
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    And it was legal... It sucks big time when you play by the rules and liberals want to make people think it was illegal... old news.... it has been a year and no one made a peep.... now we rehash old news .... and CNN has a non "bombshell" Good grief Charlie Brown....
     
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    I would never support a biased partisan committee kangaroo investigation which has nothing but 100% anti-Trumpers.
     
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    There's nothing wrong with asking for recounts. I've supported both Trump and Gore's requests for recounts. There was never any serious attempt for faithless electors -- there was no faithless elector for Clinton. Impeachment doesn't reverse elections.

    Trump actually tried to reverse the election and invalidate millions of votes to install himself as an unelected leader. But keep running away. It's cute.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    There is at least one criminal investigation into whether it was illegal for Trump to try to reverse the election. And I don't give two shits about CNN. I'm talking about Trump's attempts to reverse the election, which people like you will run away from in terror at all costs.
     
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    It's not shifting goal posts. It's pointing out the hypocrisy of the left. They cried election fowl and Trump is not the legitimate president for four years and yet refuse to let Trump do the very same thing. Democrats are already questioning the results of the midterm elections which haven't even happened yet but we have to get Trump for questioning the last election.
     
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    It is shifting the goal posts. Because Trump didn't do the very same thing. He attempted something very different. Catch up. This ain't rocket surgery.
     
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    A person who had zero chance of winning (Jill Stein) should have never been allowed to ask for a recount. The fact that election boards did it just shows their bias.
     
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    Anyone should be able to request a recount, just as any state should be able to reject that request. Requesting a recount isn't an attempt to reverse an election and install the loser into office. I supported Trump's recounts.
     
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    Democrats did do the very same thing. Trying to get electors to be faithless was an attack on democracy. Lying to courts in order to further the Russian collusion hoax was an attack on our democracy. Impeaching Trump two times just because they could abuse their power with a simple majority vote were attacks on our democracy. Questioning the upcoming midterm elections is an attack on our democracy. Wanting to mail out ballots to all registered voters, whether they want to vote or not is an attack on our democracy. Wanting to legalize vote harvesting is an attack on our democracy. Demanding vaccine papers to enter buildings but not requiring any identification to vote is an attack on our democracy.
     
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    Someone who has absolutely no chance of winning should not be allowed to request a recount.
     
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    Dems did not try to invalidate 5 states. They didn't try to have the VP ignore legit electors and select alternate ones in their place. They didn't pressure lawmakers and the DOJ to reverse the result of the election. Trump did. These are facts. The facts don't care about your feelings.

    Fact: no one in US history has done more to try to reverse the results of an election than Trump is. And you are okay with that. So stop pretending to care.
     
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    Why not? She can always request a recount on someone else's behalf. Why should it be illegal for her to request a recount, but legal for Trump to try invalidate the votes of 5 states? I know you can't answer, so be warned, I'm just going to keep asking that question when you continually fail to answer it.
     
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    So, you don't have an argument; we've already established that I've never said any such thing but, you've decided we need to rehash that again??? :roll: Here's how I responded last time.

    THAT is exactly why "America should be 100% "anti-tRumpers", because being against "voters deciding elections" and making it so "voters would be unable to vote for any candidate" is exactly what Benedict Donald tried to do with his BIG LIE and prevent from being fulfilled by OUR Congress on January 6th last year. Fortunately he failed."

    Donald Judas tRump, during the last election wanted to disenfranchise voters, by interfering with Congress as they Certified EC votes; he and his mob did their best, and thankfully ... FAILED.
     
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    There will be no justice in a partisan biased committee, just predertmined results. You should let the FBI do its job. They have done excellent so far. The congressional committee is all about public opinion, not justice, not truth, not facts. Just one party trying to gain a political advantage. Justice lies with the FBI and the 735 charges they have brought so far. Their investigations continue, more charges to come.

    Placing this in a partisan political arena, I think was wrong, dumb and stupid. But that is what democrats wants. To score political poiints vs. the FBI investigations who are interested in justice, the facts and truth.
     
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    Please don't embarrass yourself.... Do your homework.... find out why what Trump was doing was legal... and get back to us... By the way they were not "fraudulent" electors as labeled by your fake news sites... they are "alternate" electors... all legal.

    Please answer a question honestly for me.... Do you think if Pelosi had even a sniff of a chance to nail Trump on this during fake impeachment # 2... that she would not hesitate.... this is old news
     
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    The states have laws for assigning electors. These were fake electors. These were illegal "electors." Please don't embarrass yourself. Do your homework. There's a reason that there is at least 1 criminal investigation into Trump's attempt to reverse the election.

    Trump tried to invalidate the votes of 5 states in order to install himself as an unelected dictator. And people like you worship him for it.
     
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    Where is that coming from?
     
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    If only that were true.

    But, alas, it is not.

    What is partisan, however, is your allegation.
     
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    But fact finding investigations by this committee do have a legislative purpose.
     
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    It has to be a for a legislative purpose, but if Trump and his comrades thought there was no legislative purpose, they could have brought that argument to the courts. The courts have, however, upheld the legislative purpose of these subpoenas. Trump has brought his objection all of the way to the SC, where he overwhelmingly lost, with his own appointees deciding against him.
     
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    This is not a popularity contest.

    No GOP congress can drop any indictments and convictions by the DOJ.
     
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    You obviously did not take my advice to do your homework... You do not know what you are talking about...
     
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    I have, and my statement was factual. But keep defending Trump's attempts to erase millions of votes in order to install himself as dictator.
     
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    i voted for jill stein. she is NOT a democrat.
     

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