1/6 committee alleges Trump, allies engaged in potential ’criminal conspiracy’

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    And who do they all report too?
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    He fills the order from the Secretary of the Army.
     
  3. RodB

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    Utter nonsense. AFAIK Nixon is the only candidate that set a (clear cut) fraudulent election aside for the good of the country. Gore was hell bent for leather challenging Bush's victory, and he was only challenging vote count, not fraud or fraud-like. He finally gave up, not "for the good of the country" but because he ran out of runway and ways to challange
     
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    What BOARD are you talking about?
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Beside the point.
     
  6. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not on Jan6th. They used the National Guard from 4 states, the main force of the 6200 were from Maryland, and from 4 other states with Minimal presence

    https://www.wbaltv.com/article/mary...-washington-dc-doubles-1000-members/35192113#

    The “dc” national guard you refer to reports directly to the POTUS via the pentagon correct?



    https://www.wbaltv.com/article/mary...-washington-dc-doubles-1000-members/35192113#
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, NOTE that Nancy Pelosi does NOT sit on the f’n COMMITTEE that controls that power.

    FFS man
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WHICH NAtiona guard was the main presence in DC on Jan 6th ? Simple question…..just answer the damn question
     
  9. doombug

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    Defending Pelosi! Hahaha! She has mental issues and probably believes she is the Queen of England....
    nancy-pelosi-sotu.gif
     
  10. RP12

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    When will you tire of when you are wrong claiming someone said something they did not?

    The Sergeant of Arms for the House reports to the Speaker of the House.. This is documented by GOVERNMENTS OWN WEBSITES..

    So instead of eating crow and admitting it you play stupid games.

    Again

    As the chief law enforcement officer of the House, the Sergeant at Arms is responsible for
    security in the House wing of the Capitol, the House office buildings, and on adjacent grounds.
    Under the direction of the Speaker of the House or other presiding officer, the Sergeant at Arms
    plays an integral role in maintaining order and decorum in the House chamber.

    Now go find some stupid ass article to find a headline you like the sound of....
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Project much ?
     
  12. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AGAIN< the Speaker of the house is NOT on the COMMITTEE that decides.

    But it doesnt matter because facts have no place in a debate with TRUMPERS

    HAVE A NICE DAY
     
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    Project? Not at all. Glad to see you upset that I am correct.
     
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    The mayor of D.C. requested the help of the DC national guard early on. The Asst. Sec. of Defense asked the NG of MD (and VA) to mobilize and stand by. Late afternoon the MD NG was asked (given permission) to deploy to the Capitol. The DC NG was already active in support of the DC police and moving on the Capitol. The MD NG showed up early Jan 7. @Bluesguy has a very detailed timeline in post #150. So, to answer your question simply and directly, AFAIK the DC National Guard was the only Guard presence in DC or the Capitol on Jan 6.
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    She is IN CHARGE AT THE CAPITAL THEY ALL REPORT TO HER. As has been shown she was in the loop.

    So when is this committee going to subpoena her records and those ofnher staff so we can learn what they were doing?
     
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    I think at this point you are just moving the goal post constantly and claiming others said something they did not because you are not man enough to acknowledge you were wrong.

    Simple question..

    Who does the House Sergeant of Arms report to?

    Anything besides a name or title will be ignored.
     
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    Florida law WAS the point DUH.
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    You can't handle the truth.......

    "Four days after the riot, former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund, who resigned his post in the aftermath, told The Washington Post his request for pre-emptive reinforcement from the National Guard ahead of Jan. 6 was turned down. Sund said House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving, overseen by Pelosi, thought the guard’s deployment was bad “optics” two days before the raid. Pelosi and House Democrats had previously condemned the presence of federal troops in the nation’s capital to quell the violent mobs overrunning the city in the name of social justice.

    In February, The Daily Caller cited three sources familiar with Irvin’s conversations with the House Administration Committee after the riot. The sergeant of arms said discussions with the speaker’s staff were factors in his “blender of decision making.” The Caller’s sources remained anonymous, “citing the fear of putting a chill on further witnesses to how the security situation unfolded Jan. 6.”

    Pelosi’s office had previously impressed upon Irving that the National Guard was to remain off Capitol Grounds, Irving allegedly told House Admin,” The Daily Caller reported.

    In a statement to the Caller at the time, Pelosi Deputy Chief of Staff Drew Hammil denied the speaker’s office was “consulted or contacted concerning any request for the National Guard ahead of January 6th.”

    “The Speaker expects security professionals to make security decisions and to [be] briefed about those decisions,” Hammil said.

    Despite the Associated Press and Washington Post’s best efforts to run interference for the speaker, suddenly exonerating her of duties overseeing Capitol security, the riot on Jan. 6 was a security failure Pelosi owns. If the “speaker trusts security professionals to make security decisions,” then why, as the police breach unfolded, did Irving feel compelled to seek the speaker’s approval to dispatch the National Guard, as The New York Times reported? How could Pelosi also order the extended shut down of the Capitol to visitors, citing coronavirus, and install metal detectors in the House chamber?....

    ...Throughout Pelosi’s latest tenure as speaker, the House Administration Committee held one hearing on Capitol security, which was held in the summer of 2019. Pelosi took no action on any of the issues raised in the hearing."
    https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/nancy-pelosi-owns-january-6/



    "...“Several respondents stated that the concern with optics was related to leadership’s perception of the desires of Members of Congress,” the report clarified.

    The last time we heard about bad “optics” related to Capitol law enforcement was when former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund, who resigned from his leadership post shortly after Jan. 6, told The Washington Post that Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, who is ultimately responsible for the security of the Capitol, denied his request for the National Guard to assist his officers. Sund specifically noted that Pelosi’s House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving claimed that deploying the Guard would be bad “optics,” especially for House leaders who previously shunned using the military against civilian rioters."
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/0...ly-unprepared-to-handle-events-of-jan-6-2021/

    THAT is what this commission should be investigating.
     
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    Here's a nutty MAGA woman (sorry for the redundancy) who's belief in the Big Lie and associated actions are likely to cost her a bit of her freedom

    SNIP
    A grand jury indicted a Colorado election official on 10 counts as part of an investigation into tampering with the results of the 2020 election.

    The criminal charges against Mesa County clerk Tina Peters announced Wednesday include seven felony counts for attempting to influence a public servant, criminal impersonation and identify theft.

    The indictment came after numerous local, state and federal investigations into election equipment tampering.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-election-official-tina-peters-173145926.html
     
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    Wait I thought there was no fraud and the election was completely secure.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So my post showing that the Maryland National guard was 2000 strong is just something you choose to disregard....OK
     
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    Of course it will be ignored because it doesn't fit your narrative.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    YES, He reports to Pelosi, who reports to Trump. So what you're really saying Trump kept them out right ?
     
  24. Egoboy

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    There was very little voter fraud, as usual.. most election fraud (Florida, Here, and Fake Electors) was perpetrated by Republicans...

    This lady was apparently post-election fraud..

    Here's a much better article, detailing her 5/2021 activities

    https://coloradosun.com/2022/03/09/tina-peters-indicted-grand-jury/
     
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  25. Bullseye

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    What you mean is a select committee/circle jerk gathering loaded with Democrats and anti-trump Republicans all think Trump is "yucky". Anyone think it's odd that if they have all this "evidence" not one member has leaked a whisper of anything legitimate? So far the worst I've seen is that Trump used the word "fight" in his speech.
     
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