Democrats Block GOP Bill That Would Restart Keystone XL, Federal Oil Lease Program

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    It appears the Democrats don't really care what you pay at the pump after all WE pay for their travel expenses. $2.00 a gallon or $7, it's all the same to them. In fact many don't want to bring those prices down because they want "electric" cars seem even palatably usable. A car that will go about 100 miles or less with the Heat/A/C, lights and nav system on is a tough sell even with gas at $6.00+ a gallon where I live. I guess it would be OK in states like in the North East where you can pick up the states of Connecticut, Massachusetts and Rhode Island drop them in the center of San Bernardino County California and they never touch the edges. It's 270 driving miles up I-15 from Los Angeles to Las Vegas NV......it's all desert. I would imagine that with 4 people, luggage, lights, nav system and air conditioning all on, one would have to stop several times for at least an hour or more before continuing on. Who on earth will pay $50,000+++ for a vehicle that they don't know will get them there or not or if there's even a charging station where they get stuck. You're not taking a long walk and come back with a gas can full of electricity.

    In California we still have rolling blackouts during the summer......That means there isn't enough electricity to power just the homes we have here. Any substantial addition of autos to the grid and the whole thing is likely to collapse. It's just a fact that electric autos and their subsequent infrastructure aren't ready for primetime. Heck, they shut off our electricity when the wind blows hard (TRUE). Please folks every time you have to dig deeper and deeper into your household budget to fuel your vehicles, when the pump stops on numbers that stagger you just think screw Joe Biden and screw the Democrats. While it won't relieve the pain your feeling at the pump, there will be satisfaction using it to steel your resolve to vote against every Democrat on the next 2 ballots you vote with.
     
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    The costs of getting oil out of the ground did not change nor the costs of storage and refining, the only thing changing is the profit on the sale are increasing using the current world situation as the blame. I agree with Warren who wants to tax every dime of excess profits the oil companies earn.
     
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    California shuts down power generation in very high fire risk areas, as it is a known fact that some of the generating equipment can start fires.
     
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    Why are Democrats so against domestic oil production? We're going to burn all the oil and gas we need whether it comes from Montana and Alaska or it comes from Venezuela and Saudi Arabia. It's crazy we're not energy independent like we were under Trump. And what's the Democrat mantra: If you don't like high gas prices go buy a Tesla.
     
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    Sacramento earlier today. Democrats are messing with voters in an election year.

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    90% of our oil comes from private land, nothing stopping them from increasing production but they don’t want to.
     
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    Leave it to democrats.
     
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    Biden and the Democrats WANT high prices, they just don't want to suffer politically for making it impossible for Americans to live their lives as they desire.

    Check out this special species of Idiot: Elizabeth Warren Says the Solution to High Gas Prices Is Higher Taxes on Oil Companies. “Leaving aside the fact that the senator has evidently never met a corporate tax she didn’t want to hike, history shows that imposing a windfall profits tax on oil is particularly shortsighted.”

    Typical for the illegitimate authoritarians on the Left that hate our Freedom and Liberty.
     
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    I would like to know what was in the proposed bill before getting worked up. I've seen this tactic used multiple times to try and elicit an emotional response while neglecting the reasons people voted against it.
     
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    The pipeline is a mode of transport, without it the oil moves via truck or train - both are far more prone to accidents, leaks and are environmentally unfriendly.
     
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    A raging pile of nothing you have said .. What does the cost of getting oil from ground .. and Elizabeth wanting to tax (presumably a good thing .. more oil.. more taxes) have to do with the Blue Clownshow blocking the Keystone ?
     
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    I seriously doubt the fire risk from that exceeds the fire risk from people making fires outdoors to cook their food on like we went back to the stone ages
     
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    Ah yes, let's get the pipeline back into the planning stage. That will bring gas back to $2.20 per gallon. You guys are a hoot.
     
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    This is what it is. Oil companies have moved to focusing more on rewarding shareholders. They don't want to increase production unless they're dead certain it will pay off.

    Keystone is a total non-issue, since it has zilch to do with oil production and global supply and prices.
     
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    Oil companies can drill, baby, drill but they just don't want to? Now I've heard it all.
     
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    it's worth noting that the energy independence we achieved under Trump was more from a spike in natural gas production than oil. And we actually consumed more fossil fuels than we produced during those years.

    It's not just tied to oil.

    https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/monthly/pdf/sec1.pdf
     
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    Well I guess by Democrat math logical standards we could just keep buying it from other countries.

    Who cares about energy independence of our own country let's just let other countries keep us by the short hairs so we can force everyone to drive a stupid little electric car ...

    Are you already driving one?
     
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    So a great big pipeline that moves oil between us and our neighbor has nothing to do with oil production or the cost of gas?

    How on Earth do you figure this?
     
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    Sad but true. Shale isn't cheap and they have shareholders to reward.
     
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    In that production would not be increased because of it.
     
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    Well of course production itself won't be but distribution will.

    But then again do you think people are going to produce oil if they don't have an easy and cheap way to move it?

    Would you prefer by rail or by truck where it cost more and is more prone to accident and pollution?

    I'm no expert on the topic but I think moving it by pipeline is the most cheapest safest way to do it.
     
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    It's probably a lot cheaper than all the taxes and regulations this idiotic administration has levied upon it
     
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    Oil prices are at an all time high and American producers don't want to produce. You can say that with straight face? Biden put the bakes on US domestic oil production on day one in office and bragged about it.
     
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    Looks fake. I live in Sacramento and gas is nowhere near that price. Also, the difference between unleaded and premium is 2 cents.
     
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    How soon would these plans yield more oil and lower prices at the pumps?
     
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