Russia Angrily Demands U.S. Stop Sending Weapons to Ukraine

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  1. Moolk

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    Wishful thinking I’m afraid
     
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    Putin is the reason. He sits there with chocolate all over his hands and face and accuses the US of stealing the cake. Get outa here, bring it or shut up. Probably better for Putin to just shut up and take what's left of his Army and go home.
     
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    The US and NATO is the reason. The Cold War ended in 1989 for the old Soviet Union but the US continued because it needed Russia to continue to be the big bad evil empire so the MIC can be fed massive amounts of people's money. Now we have Europe feeding the beast.
     
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    Helping arm them is just fine. Let Putin take his black eyes and waddle home.
     
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    This just provides Joe the "plausible deniability" card to play with regards to his 10% cut from Hunter. Putin knows that Joe isn't completely responsible for weapons/aide being given to Ukraine. Congress holds the purse strings.
     
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    Who or what started this mess - is a related but separate subject. Sending heavier weapons has consequences ..and at some point is an act of war (that point far past) -- and has a host of problems - one of which is that at some point these actions necessitate a response - somewhat like how NATO destabilizing nuclear detente - by puting ABMs on Russia's border - necessitated a response.

    Israel has been aggressing on the Palestinians again ... invading, stealing/occupying land -- when we gonna be sending Palestinians the heavy stuff ? or Syria who Israel has also been attacking and stealing land ..

    The Kurds are still waiting for the Heavy Stuff .. need some help to fight Turkey

    Watched an interesting snippet on RT the other day ... Remembering when NATO bombed the State Television network in Belgrade Serbia - killing 16 civilians.. massive violation of international law - widely condemned at the time .. and of course ending with the Annexation of territory from a sovereign nation .. setting precedent vunderbar .. something the Prophet warned about many times ..and now folks cry and whimper when I say "I told you so"
     
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    Invading a neighboring country is an act of war. Heavy weapons were/are involved in that invasion.
     
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    Yes .. correct .. invading a soverign nation is an act of war .. often involving heavy weapons.

    What does that have to do with all the whimpering and crying going on when they find out what led to this war .. as foretold by the prophet ..
     
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    The Prophet told us Putin was coming?
     
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    Oh yeah .. and you may well have clicked like on numerous of those posts .. as many did and have done over the years .. many years .. telling you what was to come. Starting with the Annexation of Kosovo the prophet foretold - "Do as we say - Not as we do" foreign policy goona come back to bite .. Bad Precedent was told you .. but who cares what prophet say .. no mind for the future consequences in the heat of the moment.

    And wat bout u .. acting all suprised .. Oohhh Ohhhh .. Putin come ... Ohhhh Ohhhh .. why he do dat .. Ohhhh Ohhh. never you look around try to figure out why grass is so green on other side of septic tank.. Ohhh .. Ohhh Putin come .. bad man..

    Bush he back out .. unilaterally .. from ABM treaty round 2002. Putin say " dis mistake mon" - Den this stupid fk . he announce plan to put des tings on Russia border in Poland and Czech. Prophet told you .. dis bad mon .. nutting good gonna come out of destabilization of nuclear detente.. forcing Putin to take counter measures.

    and what bout u ... acting all suprised when the bombs fall ... on your head .. OHHHH .. OHHHH Putin come .. den you will remember what the prophet told you.. having them nukes 30 minutes away in Russia .. no good you say .. better Putin put nukes in space above you head .. 1 minute away den you be happy .. hair trigger .. dat it mon OHHH OHHHH .. listen to the cries of those who heeded not the words of the prophet when I tell them "I told you so" and all the Who's .. down in Whoville .. they all cried boo who who :)
     
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    Which prophet?
     
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    The one gifted as such .. so it is written .. so it shall be done !
     
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    There are many prophets
     
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    Do you smell toast?
     
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    Yes .. some better than others .. by the track record you may know .. which direction the wind will blow.. So it is Written .. So it Shall be Done.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Flatulence .. comming from your general direction .. or somewhere over in the peanut gallery .. one of them .. who smelt it who delt it affairs me thinks :)
     
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    Ok, I truly felt that your post seemed medicated or something was wrong. There is no such thing as a prophet, and you seem really wound up.
     
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    Unbeliever - Heretic - To the Truth - the words go by .. the bye - not recognized by the blind !

    What false accusations are these .. Blasphemy you put forth .. only medicine needed here .. for your blindness .. trying to project your failure .. to recognize the Truth - onto others .. and who be ..da "Really wound up" one ere ? Trouble understanding ye haven ? whats been said to you ? .. now go back and read .. that which sent you into this medicated tizzy .. figure out what set you off.. first step this is.. to extraction of poison lizard .. infecting da mind :) medicine on the way .. Don Worry ..

    When da last time u say somtin prophetic .. ?
     
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    Neither Europe or Israel's problems have any effect on US national security. What's happening now in Europe is Europe's problem to solve not the US'. The US' involvement in Europe is only escalating things. It will always be more troops and more weapons until someone is forced to use nuclear weapons. This administration has made it clear Ukraine will still be standing when Putin is long gone. If Putin has any say about that and he does given the fact he has nuclear weapons that statement by Blinken can't hold. It's a threat the US can't keep.
     
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    I don't think we are going nuclear . but definitely this is an EU problem - the US chiming in - with dumb rhetoric but lots of money.

    This escalation of weapons is bad precedent .. as was annexing Kosovo .. and same thing I said then .. and no it wasn't just a "NATO Serbia" problem .. and thankfully Russia deigned not to intervene in that one .. as we are intervening now.. Breaking the International rules is an international problem .. Decades of "Do as we say Not as we Do" foreign policy .. is a problem .. specially when we continue .. as if we can get away with it .. that others will not "Do as we do"

    This is another step .. ripping another section of the rule book .. as was using the economic nuclear option.. things that matter going forward .. not limited to this conflict ..
     
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    Well, if this report is accurate, and I have no reason to think it isn't, this is probably the largest proof yet that Putin's War is backfiring.... He may destroy some of Ukraine in the end, but he'll be no better off from a Russian security standpoint.... and certainly worse off from a pariah standpoint.

    Instead of 1 country possibly considering joining NATO someday in the future, there could be 2 joining by the end of the year.

    SNIP
    Finland and Sweden are preparing to simultaneously submit membership applications to NATO, and could do so as early as mid-May, Nordic media organizations reported Monday.

    The Finnish newspaper Iltalehti reports that Sweden "suggested the two countries indicate their willingness to join" the alliance on the same day, and Finland agreed "as long as the Swedish government has made its decision."

    New opinion polls indicate that about 68 percent of Finns are supportive of joining NATO, more than double the number before the Russian invasion of Ukraine, while in Sweden, "a slim majority" of residents are in favor of joining, The Guardian reports.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/reports-sweden-finland-agree-apply-011724506.html
     
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    What is the Security Standpoint .. "no better off" .. Agreed ! but he will be no worse off either .. so nothing significant to lose on that front. A dire misperception of the Chessboard .. thinking that pawn was a Rook .. big blunder that would be .. should moves follow from that perspective.

    Pariah .. agree with that one .. but again .. he was kind of a pariah before .. albeit this will be a fair bit worse.. still .. must take into account all these things .. when assessing the position .. and off with the Rose petaled spectacles.
     
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    Do you actually think he's that stupid?

    And what do you mean by 'half the world'? In reality it's much less than that. The majority will go with the East.
     
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    The whole point of doing what they're (yes, THEY .. not just R) doing, is because we are so weak.
     
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    Based on the horrifingly limited information the Western media is allowing ... I can almost understand how it might be possible to think everything's great, and Ru$$ia is doomed.
     
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