Can people really be non-binary?

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Can people really be non-binary?

  1. no

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are seriously not paying attention if you believe there is acceptance. Lol.
     
  2. dairyair

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    I see. But you made up nonsense about alternative human animal. NOT I.

    Is one born with 6 toes or fingers also an alternative human animal?

    Can you clarify what sex these hermaphrodites are? Or are they just some alternate human animal only in your mind.
    Even if the are your made up alternate, do they have gender qualities? Which one?
     
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    Based on what you stated here, I see where Desantis could be heading. Outlawing non heteros from ever teaching in Fla.
    I hope he tries to do that.

    Because a gay teacher, just by being a teacher, is teaching gayism, whatever that actually is, to kids.
     
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    Those not letting the education system, or any other system, not even talk about them.
     
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    "The list of indispensable inventions from immigrants includes the telephone (Alexander Graham Bell), the electric escalator (David Lindquist), basketball (James Naismith), blue jeans (Levi Strauss) and ATMs (Luther George Simjian). And don’t forget — yum! — the Korean taco (Roy Choi). One study found that “immigrants have been awarded 39 percent, or 33 of 85, of the Nobel Prizes won by Americans in Chemistry, Medicine and Physics since 2000.” Another study reported that “81 percent of full-time graduate students in electrical and petroleum engineering programs at U.S. universities are international students, and 79 percent in computer science are.” Scientific research in the United States would be decimated if we were less diverse.

    The same would be true of American business. The list of iconic American companies started by immigrants includes Google, Kraft, eBay, Pfizer, Intel and AT&T. Roughly 40 percent of the Fortune 500 companies were started by immigrants or their immediate offspring.

    Numerous studies have confirmed that diversity is a big plus for corporations because it fosters more creative thinking. According to the Harvard Business Review, “A 2015 McKinsey report on 366 public companies found that those in the top quartile for ethnic and racial diversity in management were 35% more likely to have financial returns above their industry mean, and those in the top quartile for gender diversity were 15% more likely to have returns above the industry mean.”

    Diversity is also important for national security. The New York Police Department has one of the most effective counterterrorism units in the world in part because it is so diverse: 22 percent of the officers hired in about the past 18 months are foreign-born, hailing from 77 countries. Same with the U.S. armed services and the intelligence community.

    It’s a good thing that diversity is such an American strength, because it is inevitable and unavoidable. The only question is how we will cope with diversity: well or badly. We would be doing a lot better if cynical demagogues such as Trump and Carlson were not stoking white fear and resentment for personal gain"
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ns-why-diversity-really-is-americas-strength/

    Reality, what a concept!!
     
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    No you don't understand. You actually think that law is about not saying the word gay. And you can't quote the part of the law that you said criminalizes the kids. You've been pretty well propagandized on this issue in a way that mere facts will not dissuade.
     
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    Bigotry uber alles..
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    Calling someone a bigot rather than addressing their arguments speaks to your inability to argue for your side outside of the slogans you've been given.

    I often wonder what it's like for people like you who don't have an intellectual understanding of the side their on and instead just depend on emotive name calling.
     
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    Your so called arguments are dead letters.

    But you'd need to have motivation to work through your BS. Which happens to everybody, but one in a million has the gumption to pull it off.

    In college, I had a Prof that did her PHD on slavery and racism. So I have a soupcon of understanding...
     
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    So...don't address the arguments, simply hurl insults.

    If all you are capable of doing is throwing out insults, the least you could do is be witty about it.
     
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    You can't process them.

    I lived through this before, I had hoped to be gone before the next cycle of racism got going.

    No such luck.
     
  12. Lil Mike

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    Racism now? Lol! Talk about doubling down!
     
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    “People often define racism as disliking or mistreating others on the basis of race. That definition is wrong,” said Roberts, who directs the Social Concepts Lab, part of the psychology department, in the School of Humanities and Sciences. “Racism is a system of advantage based on race. It is a hierarchy. It is a pandemic. Racism is so deeply embedded within U.S. minds and U.S. society that it is virtually impossible to escape.”

    Roberts, an assistant professor and co-author, Michael Rizzo, a postdoctoral fellow at New York University and the Beyond Conflict Innovation Lab, write that “just as citizens of capitalistic societies reinforce capitalism, whether they identify as capitalist or not, and whether they want to or not, citizens of racist societies reinforce racism, whether they identify as racist or not, and whether they want to or not.”
    https://news.stanford.edu/2020/06/09/seven-factors-contributing-american-racism/

    The ironic thing is, once you break down the wall of denial, the sheer amount of racism is staggering.

    But you can't do that.

    But if you want to try, start with The New Jim Crow..

    https://www.businessinsider.com/boo...age-of-colorblindness-by-michelle-alexander-2
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don’t think what you think I think. Lol.

    DeSantis has republicans scared that teachers are giving children blow job demonstrations, when all they want to do is bring in the concept that “your” family doesn’t look like everyone else’s family. But, no indoctrination allowed. The mere thought that someone may have two dads is verboten.
     
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    Heh, you know the topic was never about racism until you brought it up?

    I'm going to wait and see how you circle back and bring this and the topic all together. It should be a masterpiece.
     
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    No, we were not talking about blow job demos. You said the kids would be criminalized. I just want you to show where in the law 5 year old's are going to be hauled off to jail because of this law.
     
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    I didn’t say they WOULD be. Sigh. You don’t even read.

    I said that since teachers are no longer allowed to indoctrinate kids by discussing family diversity, what are the teachers supposed to do when little Johnny asks teacher, “Mikey says he has two dads, but Mikey is a liar. My parents told me a real family is one mom and one dad,”

    Is teacher supposed to agree that Mikey is a liar to comply with the law? Does Mikey get called to the principal’s office to be told he may not discuss his family at school?

    The bill will only seek to ostracize those who don’t conform to the Stepford Wife vision that republicans desire.
     
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    No, that wasn't your argument at all.

     
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    MAY BE.... not will be.

    I'm one of the few people looking at the unintended consequences of this hastily put together bill, that is clearly a campaign stump, since it's not based in reality.

    There is no doubt that there will be unintended consequences. You have no way of knowing what they are.

    It will be interesting to see what the first school does when two kids get in an argument over whether or not two dads is a legit family.
     
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    So you're backing off the whole criminalize kids thing? OK
     
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    And he apparently has to overcompensate
     
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    disagree, non-binary is a rather modern trend sexy to coincide with the Advent of Tumblr.
    just because people say there's something that cannot be identified or defined in any way doesn't mean that that's something that claim to be is real.

    For instance I can claim to be a leprechaun it doesn't then make leprechauns real.
     
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    What do you mean when you say some people 'don't accept' the oddities? That they deny their existence, or something else?

    Everyone knows they exist, so you don't actually mean 'acceptance' do you. You mean something else entirely ... something more along the lines of 'dislike' or 'disapproval'. You're simply offended that some people don't agree with you on this matter.
     
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    YOU bought up birth defects. YOU.

    And their existence has no bearing on the metric for the human animal (binary gendered, ten toed).
     
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    Why SHOULD they talk about them? Do they talk about every other iteration of human oddity and variation? No .. of course they freaking don't.

    It's either ALL or NONE. Because talking about just one group of variants is to promote that. Just as it was an outrageous abuse of tax payers money to focus on Christianity (to the exclusion of other religions) in public schools, so is this. It's also patent manipulation, just as it was with Christianity.
     
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