Whistleblowers: FBI targeted parents via terrorism tools despite Garland's testimony that it didn't

And that’s on them not the people they lied to

 

Depends what they did. Did they just look into it or did they get warrants and subpoenas?

 

Comey once said this about standards for the FBI to start an investigation.

Comey responded, saying that there are a “couple different [standards] at play.” Elaborating, he said the FBI needs a “credible allegation of wrongdoing or reasonable basis to believe that an American” is committing a federal crime in order to initiate an investigation.”


The standards “at play” that Comey refers to are not set by an act of Congress. They are outlined in the Attorney General Guidelines, a Justice Department rulebook, which sets the parameters for the FBI’s domestic operations. These guidelines—which can be changed at the will of any Attorney General—came into existence in 1976 after the Senate Church Committee investigation into J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI and its abuses of power.

Edward Levi, attorney general under President Gerald Ford, established the first set of guidelines. These rules curtailed the FBI’s oft-abused domestic counterintelligence power. They required agents to articulate a reasonable, factual indication that criminal activity has or may occur to justify informant tasking, mail covers, and other aggressive forms of investigation.


As found in this article

https://www.justsecurity.org/40451/standards-opening-fbi-investigation-statistic-meaningless/

 

Lol so it’s up the the DOJ and that’s referencing counterintelligence and other “aggressive” forms of investigating.
So what did they do?

 

Yes, but it’s beyond the most recent knowledge of standards for the FBI. I know a judges has ruled on reasonable suspicion for regular law enforcement. Not sure if it’s different for the FBI. But if the same definition applies they definitely breached the standard

being Garland testified this never happened yet it did is also a false testimony

Garland testified before the House Judiciary Committee in late October.
Garland told lawmakers he could not “imagine any circumstance in which the Patriot Act would be used in the circumstances of parents complaining about their children, nor … a circumstance where they would be labeled as domestic terrorists.”… yet, here we are.

he lied and also never suggested a change in standards.

 

Who was leveled a terrorist and how was the patriot act used?

 

Self control, maybe?

 

Jordan spoke out on a Sunday morning news show and made his allegations that the article is about.

 

It is interesting how left wing members try to control conservatives content on the current events page? They succeed all too often in my opinion.

 

These people were investigated as terrorists.

read this

https://republicans-judiciary.house...J-to-Garland-re-completeness-of-testimony.pdf

 

I believe this will answer some of your questions

https://republicans-judiciary.house...J-to-Garland-re-completeness-of-testimony.pdf

 

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Doesnt seem to answer my questions. How was the patrio act used and who was labeled a terrorist?

 

No it did not. Again surveillance tools have been around for decades, and it was the Patriot Act that enabled law enforcement to use those tools.

Btw, I believe the correct term is counter-terrorism tool.

 

Well, your OP is a matter of opinion. Where's the court case proving your belief.

 

Again, you are framing your position as true and factual. Problem, it's only a shared opine. Sorry.

 

Did you miss this part?

Later in the hearing, however, you were questioned about the Department’s press release touting the inclusion of the National Security Division—the Departmental component responsible for enforcing federal terrorism laws, including the Patriot Act5—i

 

"The National School Boards Association wrote a letter to President Joe Biden asking for federal assistance in responding to the mounting threats and violence that they likened to "domestic terrorism" against school board members related to their decisions on COVID-19 school safety policies, critical race theory and more."

The federal government has the jurisdiction because they receive federal funds

 

That’s not how it works. Kids don’t get investigated by the FBI for stealing at school despite the school receiving federal funds. They don’t get investigated by the FBI for assault on school grounds, or for having drugs in their locker.

 

It’s reporting on the factual find from a whistleblower about investigating gun owners the fbi found never made threats. It’s not an opinion

 

Those tools used specifically 5-I in the link provided is not a tool authorized other than the patriot act.

 

The SCHOOL BOARDS are elected officials and they are the ones who use the federal funds.

YES, they can ask for assistance from the federal government

 

So if I write to the President asking for assistance in uncovering who stole my kids watch at school then the FBI will get involved? Pfft. Hogwash. Learn what "jurisdiction" means. The FBI may only conduct investigations that occur on federal land (hint: public schools are owned by the State, not Federal), when a crime crosses state lines (hint, parents yelling at school board members they elect does not cross state lines), involves interstate commerce (hint, school board meetings are not considered interstate commerce), on a ship flying an American Flag (hint, schools are not conducted on ships), and crimes that are on Indian Reservations (also subject to conditions).

Also public schools do not directly receive federal funding. Those Federal dollars are actually given to the State to distribute among the schools and does not constitute even the majority of how much a school gets. Most school funding comes through local property taxes imposed by the State and even local town government, not Federal government.

Additionally there was no violence happening when they wrote that letter. And still no violence has happened since. People have yelled, shook their fists in the air, but not one single school board member has ever been attacked at those meetings.

You're trying to make excuses in order to make what happened acceptable because you support anything that Democrats do. But I hate to tell you this, shouldn't even have to, throwing rose petals on crap does not take the stink away from the crap.

 

These matters are local matters. The only reason the feds got involved was due to the false labeling of these parents as domestic terrorists. The feds don’t get involved in local things, even if the place receives federal funds. Sometimes they will be asked to ASSIST local authorities, but they don’t take over and the local authorities charge, prosecute, and jail those offenders, not the feds. When did the local police ask for assistance here? They didn’t? Oh….

 

What is the name of this so called surveillance tool. FYI, a "tag" is an attribute or field of a dataset. Kind of like a column on a database or spreadsheet.

I just want to clarify some terms here.

 

Link me to the court case proving this or the FBI/DOJ investigation. Otherwise, I'll assume you have chosen to believe it.

Regardless, my post was a generalized comment unless you keep this going to keep your thread alive. I could help there