14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

well compared to buying illegally where you don't have to do that it's a little more difficult

Also why shouldn't I be able to just buy one within a few minutes and take it home I'm not a criminal.

Does it need to be. I've never seen ads for marijuana or lsd. Those are pretty easy to get.

 

Of course. You can see those awful “FAR worse” tragedies in all those countries that don’t have a 2nd amendment. Places like Canada, UK, Australia etc.

Thanks for confirming that you support school shootings. Most people don’t have the courage to come out and say it.

 

Now it has been reported that there were three armed guards/officers at the school. Hence not a "gun free zone". So much for all US schools are "gun free zones" that one poster was trying to sell

 

Examine this thread. Peruse carefully the most vehement arguments and pay particular attention to WHO MAKES THEM. Are the arguments and the people not familiar? They are the same ones who always show and argue that we MUST continue to enable madmen EVERY SINGLE TIME THIS HAPPENS

NOTHING will EVER change this groups mind on this issue. The ONLY way we will ever get meaningful gun reform in this country is to VOTE OUT THE ENABLERS and we ALL know who they are.

In November we MUST vote against the Republicans, for our
own sake and yes, FOR OUR CHILDREN

 

Gun owners are SOO brave.

 

Those kids today lost their lives because some idiot had a gun, one which is readily available in the USA because of the 2nd Amendment. Get rid of it, and get rid of your bloody guns.

To hard an ask...too much to hope for.......best that kids die at schools than get rid of that 2nd Amendment, yes?

 

And they couldn't do anything.

Nothing wrong with that.

The NRA is having a convention in Texas soon. Its leaders will come and explain that if there had been 6 armed agents instead of 3, the children would still be alive....

 

Yeah the second amendment doesn't say your get to kill people

Think before you post in the future please.

 

Lol that’s because people like you just make it up

Every country you named has lost rights and they’ve done so because they don’t have the ability to fight back.

For instance Canada during Covid locked the whole place down, shut down streets and the border and if you were coming in you are FORCED to quarantine and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it. Why? Because you don’t have the ability to fight back.

I already pointed out Australia where they stripped people of their rights and forced them into government appropriated buildings against their will during COVID.

And England is probably the worst example. They’ve gone from one of the most powerful countries on earth to removing the right of an individual to say things that might be insulting to others. Take your ass to England and post on social media that mtf trans are actually men and watch how fast you get slapped with a criminal charge.

Now these things are somewhat innocuous because they’re not violently taking your country…. Yet. But when they do… what the **** are you gonna do about it other than bend over and grab your ankles?

 

Well think about how many attempts there have been to break into fort Knox.

There haven't been any ever.

I wonder why that is.

 

These people think that's all a okay.

Brown shirts.

Google it of you don't already know.

 

I find it increasingly difficult to convince myself that the continued sacrifice of the lives of children as the price for some people to own guns is worthwhile.

Guns.

Dead children.

Again.

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . 'n un-shot.

 

No, what will do the trick is to get rid of most of the guns we have. Draconian laws against gun possession by people unwilling to submit to stringent licensing would do that but we will never get such laws if we continue to vote into office people who have gun advocates as their main base and that means REPUBLICANS. Get rid of them and we can get rid of guns

 

I don’t think this kid had anything bad in his background, so I doubt a background check would have any effect. As a gun owner, I don’t mind background checks for gun purchases, but a background check would not help in this particular case. The kid just turned 18 when he bought these rifles, so he had no serious criminal past. Social media posts is not enough to stein someone’s record as a potential violent mass shooter.
These mass shootings are the result of a combination of freedoms that Americans enjoy - civil rights (difficulties committing someone to a psych ward), free speech (social media posts), and easy access to guns. Prevention of this particular mass shooting would require our government to impose some pretty severe restrictions on some of these freedoms for all.
Making it easy to flag someone’s background as a potential violent mass shooter will inevitably result in the left screaming about a discrimination - we’ve seen the left going nuts over treatment of Muslims after 9/11. Free speech is free speech, so I’m not even going to go there. Restricting access to guns will fire up the conservatives, and they have a valid point too - there was a time when kids could go to school with shotguns and rifles and they were alright, and global events of late remind us that armed population is, in general, a good thing.
I think it would be best if our system somehow managed to flag overly passionate youth and our military persuading them to join the ranks. This would allow our society to use these destructive individuals for our benefit and would teach these individuals to live under heavy discipline. Or, maybe, we need to implement some kind of conscription system where 18 year old boys must either do 1 year in the military, or do 1 year of some sort of community service. Many countries practice this.

 

It doesn’t matter who you vote for. nothing will get done. Tragedies like this are too useful to politicians to remove their source. They will say they want change, but will then get wishy washy and make excuses on why it can’t be done when they are in office, and then someone else will be elected. Politicians don’t care about anything but their own power and wealth. They love that there are tragedies like 5is that they can exploit. They will use the lives of your children for their own political gain.

 

No where near as easy as getting a gun in a few minutes legally and without having to go to dodgy people on dark corners not knowing what they will do to you when you get there. As easy as exhibited by this shooter

 

Ditto

 

You can’t be for real…

 

I think this would be an excellent time for concerned citizens of this country to shut down the upcoming NRA conference in this same state later this week.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/t...ion-days-after-texas-school-shooting/2976742/

 

Yes, they can. Australia in particular had much laxer gun laws before the Port Arthur massacre in 1996


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...lia-made-gun-control-happen-after-port-arthur

 

How would that help?

You can't shoot someone with a gun that isn't there.

Vote out Republican Massacre Enablers

 

Yeah, I don’t think the death penalty would be a deterrent. Some of these mass shooters plan to be killed while committing their crime.
I remember years ago in Chechnya, when Kadyrov was still fighting insurgency, he implemented a law where anyone caught engaging in it would result in property seizures from their close relatives - parents, spouses, or children. Implementing a law that would result in mass shooters’ parents or spouses losing their cars and their homes might be a brutal, but working, method of preventing such events. But, it would force our society to directly punish relatives of a criminal who themselves have not done anything wrong. On the other hand, such law could prevent Sandy Hook event too.

 

No, the prerequisite is to be a murdering piece of ****

 

We never doubted banning and confiscation was your ultimate goal.

 

How many massacres were there in Australia have before the Port Arthur massacre?