14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

There was a shooting at a hotel in Mexico a few days ago, where 11 people were killed.

 

Putin does what he can legally get away with in Russia, and DeSatan does what he can legally get away with (and more) in Florida.

 

Gun control laws encourage gun crime. Just another foolish DP political strategy.

 

Good! you Liberals start getting tough on Criminals and sending them to jail or executing them for their crimes and taking their Guns, then come talk to me after that about MY! Legal guns that are secure in a Safe.

 

Before he gets killed, he has the means and time to slaughter dozens of innocents.

Link please.

 

The Inconvenient Truth: When criminals cannot buy guns at gun stores they obtain far more powerful weapons.

"The shock wave was so powerful that Mr. Zuniga’s wife, Wanna, riding ahead of him, was blown off her bicycle and sprawled on the ground, mottled with shrapnel wounds. She turned and tried to crawl toward her husband, she told a reporter later, but the police, who had been patrolling nearby, kept her back."
THE NEW YORK TIMES, Hand Grenades and Gang Violence Rattle Sweden’s Middle Class, By Ellen Barry and Christina Anderson, March 3, 2018.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/world/europe/sweden-crime-immigration-hand-grenades.html

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

 

which would be wrong, always some going to the extreme in anything, that would never pass

 

agree, but that car is licensed, and you know who it belonged to originally

 

Why aren't Democrats SERIOUS about Crime and prosecuting these violent criminals to the fullest extent of the law instead of their soft on crime catch and release policies that unleash them back into society to victimize innocent law abiding citizens again and again. I can guarantee that some of the victims in Buffalo wished they had a Gun to try and protect themselves before they were murdered by that Psycho that shot them. How about we take into account the social media postings of some of these creeps and use that as a tool as to whether or not they can purchase a firearm. I refuse to be a sheep in a world of Wolves that Democratic policies have created.

 

The Inconvenient Truth: No law will prevent criminals from obtaining guns.

When the people are disarmed public enemies buy more guns for reasons that should be obvious.

The UK 6 years after guns were banned: "Even after the UK gun ban it was easier to order a machine-gun in the UK than a pizza.

"Chris, a stocky but affable thirty-something South
Londoner recently retired from a career in armed robbery,
comes bounding back from the bar with a cheeky grin on
his face. 'It'll be about 20 minutes,' he says. 'Less time than
it takes to deliver a pizza and plenty of time for another
drink. Same again?'

We are sitting behind a busy pool table in the dingy annexe of
a pub on the outskirts of Catford which, according to Chris, is
one of the easiest places in the capital to buy an illegal gun. ...
Few will be surprised that the number of illegal guns used on
the streets of London is currently at an all-time high, with at
least two shootings and four armed robberies every day since
the start of the year...."
THIS IS LONDON, By Danny Brown, 2/28/02. (emphasis mine)
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynam...?in_review_id=509803&in_review_text_id=473066

 

I admit, it took a fair bit of digging (and using a non-Google and non-Bing search engine).

 

Since Port Arthur in 1996, I only have 5 mass shootings.

25 dead.

Conclusion: the drastic measures taken in Australia have had a huge effect.

 

We already have enough gun laws on the books, none of which would have prevented this. What about enforcing the ones wealready have?Wait, just in case I missed it what law would have prevented this?

 

The killer of Uvalde got his guns legally.

 

Mexico's murder rate is something like 6X ours. If the choice is between Mexico-style failed gun control policies, and American-style freedom with comparably low levels of murders, I choose freedom.

 

I said massacres. They include arson, vehicles and explosives. Murder is murder. The weapon is irrelevant.

 

Your surrender, accepted.

 

So what?

 

Yes I can buy suppressors off the shelf in England...lol

 

Irrelevant. No law could have prevented him from obtaining firearms or other weapons.

The Inconvenient Truth: The only thing that can stop an armed criminal in the act is someone with a gun. Disarming the people empowers criminals.

 

You can apparently buy anything over there at the right pub. What a country!

 

Most of those nations have had at least one school / mass shooting in recent years. What do you mean "with results"?

 

Homicide rate:

Australia: 0.9
US: 5

 

We can't even keep guns out of prisons. It's not possible to get to a scenario where "NOBODY has a gun" in a free society (or even an imprisoned one). Do you have any other ideas you'd like to propose?