more spin what day did person must own a car to have a drivers license?? nobody suggested registering each firearm ..but gun owners should have a license to have possession of a gun outside of the home if a gun or guns are in a persons home they are NOT a danger to society..it is when they are carried out of the home they become dangerous a car sitting in the driveway will not be at fault if in a crash,,when the car is out in the street being driven it can cause a crash a car owner does not need a license if the car is not being driven, or only driven on personal property example below,,, lets say I buy a new hand gun and I do no have a license to carry... upon purchase I should be given a temporary permit allowing me to transport the weapon to my residence when I have the proper license I can take the weapon out of the home until licensed, a gun should only protect the contents of the home a person using a gun to hunt deer must have a license to do so..the gun license could be attached to a hunting license and just like using a car...you must have a license to drive it and if you do not the car is impounded if caught with an unlicensed driver so if a person has a gun on his person without a license that person should have the gun taken away until the proper license is acquired I also think a person should not be allowed to own a gun under the age of 21 without adult supervision.. why 21 you ask??.the last 2 mass shooting were carried out by mentally ill 18 year old kids because a kid under 21 cannot legally buy a drink . if a person under 21 cannot have a drink why should that person own a gun? and to repeat myself when obtaining a drivers license a person has a background check what ramifications have the drivers license background check caused?? easy peasy tell ted cruz to call me I will straighten him out
Please tell that one again.... please oh please .... let's see if you are naïve enough to dare post that again... ""we don't let you operate your vehicle until you have a license to drive it."" Really... are you that naïve?.. Why you are making naïve statements about how you will keep guns out of the hands everyone the does not have a permit or license...[/QUOTE]
believe it or not some people obey the law and if not arrest them one at a time[/QUOTE] We are taking your car away because some folks don't follow the vehicle laws, no one gets a car for the mistakes of others as in when they drink and drive, licensed or not.. cars don't kill people, people kill people.. We are taking your gun away because some folks don't follow the registration laws, no one gets a gun for the mistakes of others as in when they shoot and kill, licensed or not.. guns don't kill people, people kill people..
We are taking your car away because some folks don't follow the vehicle laws, no one gets a car for the mistakes of others as in when they drink and drive, licensed or not.. cars don't kill people, people kill people.. We are taking your gun away because some folks don't follow the registration laws, no one gets a gun for the mistakes of others as in when they shoot and kill, licensed or not.. guns don't kill people, people kill people..[/QUOTE] how lame can your point be?? PLEASE do not tell the 19 children in Texas that guns dont kill I don't think they would agree could a human being kill so many people is such short time without a gun?? maybe with poison?? or a horrendous accident..plane crash , bus crash . boat capsizing ect; please enough with the guns dont kill people ..it is a lame argument
GRINGO said ..... how lame can your point be?? PLEASE do not tell the 19 children in Texas that guns dont kill I don't think they would agree could a human being kill so many people is such short time without a gun?? maybe with poison?? or a horrendous accident..plane crash , bus crash . boat capsizing ect; please enough with the guns dont kill people ..it is a lame argument[/QUOTE] Hammers don't kill people either.... Unless someone tries to pick one up and bash someone in the head with it. And forks do not make you fat and keyboards do not cause typos. So enough with the lame blaming of the inanimate object. Do you think perhaps guns have a soul and a will of their own?
Not a single thing you said changes a thing. If you want universal background checks, it will require universal registration. If you have universal registration, somehow they have to verify whether you have the guns registered to you and only the guns registered to you. You tell us how your universal background check would work. Universal back ground checks was the one and only subject I addressed.
and I made my point which you refuse to acknowledge so let me repeat it once again a person obtaining a driver license has a background check if that person owes fines or has been suspended in one state that person cannot just go to another state and lie and say " don't have a record" I once did not pay a speeding ticket in a new england state. 12 years later I could not re-new my license until I paid the fine on a ticket 12 years old BECAUSE OF BACKGROUND CHECKS the exact system used for drivers licenses could be a starting point for gun licenses to begin if a person is under 21 or has a record of an arrest he/she should be denied the right to carry a fire arm that same person can certainly own a fire arm as long as that person keeps the gun in his/her home
another lane ass point. owning a gun is certainly a constitutional right. But many people have lost the right to own a firearm if the constitution can give the right to own a firearm it can certainly take away that right as well
If a person is determined to drive a car drunk, they will drive it with or without a license. If a person is determine to shoot someone, they will get a gun and shoot someone with or without a license.
Mental healthcare reform. Education reform. Justice reform. I've offered the solution many times over. I'm tired of repeating myself.
Point out the part where the Constitution does this. What you're describing is a privilege, not a right.
Sure thing pal. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/04/23/list-fatal-vehicle-attacks/544603002/
Another thing you don't seem to understand. The Constitution is the people's contract that limits the government, what the government can and cannot do. The Constitution was not crafted by the government to give and take rights from citizens
The constitution does not say citizens must obey laws and pay taxes either. but the backbone of this country is laws and taxes
That has nothing to do with the Constitution being a list of limitations on the federal government. And I believe there may be some argument on your taxes example
drunks drive atound on suspended licenses all the time, cawthorn was caught doing it. but my point is many drunks do not drive after their licenses are suspended and never kill anyone.
well, great. no one should need a drivers license then and the state should get out of the unconstitutional traffic enforcement business altogether.
That certainly would protect the kids. You are thinking like a practical person. That certainly would protect the kids. You are thinking like a practical person. That certainly would protect the kids. You are thinking like a practical person. Dear Mind Reader: I never said that or thought that. Turn in your tarot cards. Think about this -- how do we protect our presidents? Are not our kids just as important?
So again, please lay out your specific grand plan. And I already talked about locking doors when school starts. You clearly missed that. Guess you were too busy being self-righteous.
There is no comparison between a driver's license and universal gun registration. Every time you drive their is chance that you will get pulled over and must show your driver's license. In the over seventy years I have owned a gun, law enforcement has never seen one of my guns.