A Challenge To Anyone

Yes, including if you know the person has a severe mental disorder or know he is an ex-felon. That is why some people want such private sales to be included in a background check; thus, accountability for the seller in private sales, which will include maintaining the paperwork involved such like an FFL license holder who is registered to sell firearms.

There is still proof of the sale, there is always a paper trail, usually in the bank accounts arena. Second, testimony from the person who bought the firearm. If the two of you don't know each other, no matter what the place, your and the defendant's whereabouts.

 

For starters, who is "y'all?"

Second, trust should be in our institutions, not individuals and especially political groups, including your own.

Third, your "proposal" was a poison pill knowing full well that the person would not accept it. The point pill was the proposed amendment not to have any more gun control legislation, which would be extremely limited and illogical. But then again, maybe you can agree to my proposal. We will agree that the 2a includes the right to purchase any firearm or weapon, including a M1A3SAP, chemical and biological weapons without any impedement in exchange that every conservative and Republican will forefeit their assets, monetary, real property and personal property forever. Will you agree to that?

 

I get paid in cash and simply deny that I sold the gun.

 

Mag locks on exterior doors.

You're welcome.

 

Fine you claim it’s a poison pill. Which it’s not. But that’s fine.

Y’all want us to give up at least part of the second amendment. But to do so you can’t simply expect us to agree out of the goodness of our hearts and trust that you don’t want to completely remove the second amendment.

How will you combat the problem that we have which is we don’t trust that you’re not just using this as an insidious attack on the second in an attempt to completely eliminate it?

What guarantees do we have if we give you your common sense gun regulations that you won’t simply come back for more the next time.

As for your proposal. Our positions are different. Meaning technically the second already allows for what you proposed without us having to give up anything for it. We have no need to agree to your proposal. But if you want us to give up our rights, you have to compromise and provide protections against future regulations or you will get nothing.

 

No they don't.

 

and I know people that have driven a car for 60 years and never been pulled over


you claim a background check is not possible

I show proof a background check is not only possible, but that thousands of background checks are done every day

 

Please turn in your car keys and do not drive again. Someone, somewhere with a license has got into a car after drinking and killed someone on the highway.. cars are banned ... if a single gun killer can get guns banned, a single driver killer should get all cars banned.

Thanks for making my point... The license or has not one thing to do with it... nothing...
Some licensed driver get behind the steering wheel and drive after drinking. And kill someone.
Some legally bought gun owners go out and shoot people. And kill someone.
Some suspended licensed driver get behind the steering wheel and drive after drinking. And kill someone.
Some illegally bought gun owners go out and shoot people. And kill someone.

 

yes they do

this is why when I renewed my license a few years ago i had to pay a forgotten speeding ticket

and if there were no background checks a person could have more than one drivers license

 

No. But we can all see how ridiculous you desperately trying to avoid any discussion on the topic. LOL

 

You should lock your car and never drive again....lock your gun up and throw away the key.... if guns are banned because of a single persons gun violence, then cars should be banned from car/traffic violence.

Three family members killed. Long Island May 24, 2022
https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/3-fam...k-driver-dante-lennon-after-leaving-sweet-16/

KENNETT, Mo.. Dec 15, 2021
https://www.kfvs12.com/2021/12/15/drunk-driver-who-killed-family-given-maximum-sentence/

Bloomington, Ind., on July 6, 2020.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ck-victim-attempted-lynching-indiana-n1233060

Lexington KY...January 8, 2019
https://www.alexhernandeztriallaw.com/drunk-driver-kills-family-of-five/

Minneapolis June 14, 2021
https://nypost.com/2021/06/14/car-slams-into-protesters-in-minneapolis/

Times Square, New York City September 3, 2020
https://twitter.com/datainput/status/1301675670846795779?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1301675670846795779|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.foxnews.com/us/car-black-lives-matter-protesters-times-square

Manitoba Legislature grounds Canada Feb 5 2022
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4622734/shock-moment-suv-driver-plows-into-convoy-protesters/

Charlottesville, Virginia, on Aug. 12, 2017
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...tack-charlottesville-rally-sentenced-n1024436

Seattle Washington JULY 4, 2020
https://time.com/5862856/seattle-protesters-car/

 

So do you not register your vehicle in the State you live in? Do you not have a license to drive? If you do, why do you follow the laws to do so if it makes no difference?

 

your list consists driving rampages between 2014 and 2018

the same number of mass shootings happened last week alone

 

this many mass murders happened last week with a gun as the weapon

 

You are making stuff up. I never said that.

Is that something people can count on?

 

License has nothing to do with killing... using a car or gun... it is the person doing it.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Cars don't kill people, people kill people.

Feel free anytime to lock your gun up or your car up and never use them again because someone, somewhere has used similar to kill with... just don't make the decision to take my car or gun away from me because you think I should do without.

 

Where did I ever state that I want to take away your gun or car? You see, you rightists are too emotional and argue against things that nobody wants to do.

You never answered my question. Do you follow the laws in your State and register your vehicle and have a license to drive? If it makes no difference to you because people run over people, why are you a hypocrit and obey the laws if it makes no difference?

 

First line highlighted: What type of 'background check' is performed when you apply for a Driver's License? An MVR, strictly based on your driving record.

Second line highlighted: So, people can hunt, target shoot, and carry a firearm for self defense, inside the home?

Third Line Highlighted: So marking schools as 'gun free zones', not having all entrance and exits guarded by armed guards, is kids thanking someone for their caring? If you have the possibility of tornadoes, you have sirens and shelters. If you have earthquakes, you have shelters and plans, you have floods, you have warning systems and high shelters. Since we seem to have a large number of mentally/emotionally unstable people, you guard against it.

As I suggested to another poster, do some googling: How many guns are in the US (known), then look up how many guns have been used in the mass murders. The math will tell the story.

Obviously the mental health of this murderer was twisted. That shows where the problem is/

 

a person pulled the trigger, not the gun. Deal with the person, not the gun... don't take my gun away from the actions of others.

 

My auto insurance company has my drivers license on file. I cannot register my vehicle without proof of insurance.

There is simply no comparison between universal background checks and driver's license.

 

I would give up my guns in a second if I thought that would save one life.

 

Checking a person's driving record does not a background check make.

 

I say that anybody that pushes back against any type of negotiation about their 2A rights relinquishes all rights to dictate what happens in a woman's womb. That's fair. You want to be left alone to live your life. She wants the same and as long as none of you hurt anybody, everybody can stay in their lane.

 

LOL, we have discussed this topic after the dead horse rotted, decomposed back into the soil and a thirty foot redwood has grown where it once was..

But if you must Start with how you will stop criminals from acquiring firearms and how illegal firearms will be stopped from entering the U.S...

Ya I know oldie but goodie right ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

No... . ....Some folks can get a gun without following your rules...But humor me, and tell me if you think people can't get hold of a gun without going through background checks, I am just curious if you are that naïve. Determined people don't have to play by your rules... They have brains and can accomplish what they are determined to do.

Licensed drivers drink and drive and have killed families because of their bad judgement. The license had nothing to do with it, the person does.