14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Enumerated rights don't actually exist.
    All rights are man made and need an enforcement mechanism to grant and enforce.
     
  2. dairyair

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    It's about the right to bear arms. Nothing to do with hunting or self-defense. But the ability to maintain a well regulated militia.

    Second Amendment



    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
     
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  3. Polydectes

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    Sorry I'm not I'm an expert in my thoughts and you are incompetent in that subject.
    I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I never mentioned private security.
    That's not the only one. There are also gun free zones, gun laws that already exist that you aren't enforcing, but the politicians and their lackies (you) are going to cover up their incompetence and blame guns it's easier than giving half a **** I suppose.

    I made a fantastic point you don't want to accept it because you are your political daddy's little follower.

    Go ahead help them cover up their incompetence then what are you going to do when it happens again and you little chin is hanging open in shock that excusing incompetence didn't work.

    It would be hilarious if people weren't dying.
     
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    That's why we need guns
     
  5. dairyair

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    That's why we need to carry flamethrowers.
     
  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You can get a flame thrower at Walgreens
     
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  7. truth and justice

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    No, that was the solution recommended by the NRA and pro-gunners to end school shootings
     
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  8. Pixie

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    No it is a direct link that one if the most common reasons for a divorce or séparation, resulting in single parenting, includes those catalysts.
    Of course the Best environment for a child is à happily married couple. But one of the worst is to trop à child in an abusive relationship.
     
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    Indeed. There are conditions which allow the right to drive à car...eyesight, mental alertness, physical disabilities and passing à test.
    Thankfully.
     
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    Hooray!
    Someone else sees the stark hypocrisy around "the préservation of life" , the double think so common in the religio-right.
     
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    You cannot enact à mass killing with à knife.
    Unless you can tie up à mass of people and stab them effectively enough to kill them, of course. Highly improbable...but Yes. I agree with the principle.
     
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    David Blunkett was home secretary 20 years ago.
    Why do you think this is relevant today?
    And this is crime rate, not murder.
    Let's stick with the subject, eh?
     
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  13. Bush Lawyer

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    Ummmmmm.....yeas.
     
  14. Bush Lawyer

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    Nope, its not in the Constitution. Yeah, we get that. Neither is the "right" for households to keep gun in their toy box an enumerated Constitutional right.
     
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    If you can't defend yourself who's going to do it for you. The only people left are the people that let this happen.

    I don't know how many times they have to prove to you that they're incompetent.
     
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    Did you see Humpty Trumpy's Kirk Douglas imitation crap address to the NRA? Especially the bit about the nasty people who would politicize the gun death's of kids/people. Observe Grasshoppers, observe!!! Idiots from Australia's One Nation Party meet NRA Officials a couple of years ago. Note the coaching on what to say. And there is Humpty doing exactly what the HRA recommend. Idiots!!!!

     
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    As I said, that was the solution given by the NRA and pro-gunners to end school shootings. Say anything other than focus on the real culprit
     
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    And the only possible corporate you can think of is that some Hunter owns a rifle?
     
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    Charlton Heston!!!!! Not Kirk Douglas!!! **Brain fart**
     
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    As a point of interest do you know the difference between England, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom?
     
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    I recognize that allowing 18-year-olds to purchase two AR-15s and 375 rounds of ammunition without even parental permission is in no way required by the 2nd Amendment.

    I support the consistent view of most Americans regarding the current permissiveness that allows such a thing to happen.


    Texans, like most Americans, favor stricter gun control laws. But for the past decade, up to and including laws passed in 2019, the first legislative session after mass shootings in El Paso and Odessa, the state Legislature has continuously and steadily loosened the state’s gun laws. And in the wake of another horrific mass shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, it’s hard not to imagine more of the same.

    Depending on what state you live in, this disconnect may sound familiar, or it may come as a surprise, given Texas’ inextricable link with gun culture. But polling results show that it’s a distinct minority of Texans who express consistent, absolutist positions on gun rights. When we ask Texas voters whether gun laws should be more or less strict, as we have done nine times since 2015, each time a plurality or majority have indicated they wanted stricter gun laws. In fact, no more than 22 percent of Texas voters have said that laws restricting guns should be less strict.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...nt-get-the-gun-laws-they-really-want-00035709
     
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    "Basic" because it's right there in the Constitution?
     
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    Murder, attempted murder, assault, destruction of private property are illegal. That's the limit on the 2nd Amendment. Just like there are no limits on free speech, as of ng as that speech doesn't cause physical harm. There are no limits on freedom of religion, until practicing that religion causes physical harm. There are no limits on the press, as long as the press doesn't cause physical harm, or harm to someone's life, or reputation, erroneously, or by printing an intentional falsehood. The press can even lie, with 99% freedom of concequinces.

    There is no public road in the country where it's legal to drive 100 mph, but it's legal to own a car that will go 100 mph.

    I know exactly what "shall not be infringed" means
     
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    Apparently, a truckload of them.
     
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    I don't have a problem with training, as long as it's government funded and easily accessible, meaning the option to take the training at nights and on weekends.

    As far as locking up my gun while traveling? That defeats the purpose of having a gun for self defense.
     

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