How easy is it to build an "assault rifle"...

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  1. modernpaladin

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    So now you wanna ban metalworking and machining tools... just out of curiosity, which ones? And is that for everyone, or can the big corporations still make products out of metal, just not the rest of us?
     
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    Right. That is its capability. That is not necessarily its purpose.
     
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    Guns are made to cause injury or death, that they can be used for other things does not negate this fact.
     
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    And there is no other hunting rifle on the market that he could use? One that can't be modified for full auto?

    I don't begrudge people who actually use such guns for practical purposes, but there are only a tiny few like your friend. Most AR-15 owners bought them as small investments, watching the political climate change the resale value and biding their time until these are banned, at which point they rise in value. But the fact that so many obviously troubled young men can go into a gun store on their 18th birthday and buy one, or two, is insane.
     
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    He isn't my friend. He is my son in law.
     
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    Obviously that is not true for the 22.
     
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    They are not military grade weapons.
     
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    Yep, still true.
     
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    "real assault weapons" are already tightly controlled - I guess your research didn't discover that. They rest of your fantasy "solution" is laughable at best; pitiful at worst. Removing so-called "assault weapons" completely wouldn't budge shooting deaths more than a few tenths, at beast.

    Do some research on what time of weapon is used in the huge majority of gun murders.
     
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    You cannot find a single reference which says the intended purpose of a gun is to kill or injure. There are numerous guns out there such as nerf guns, bb guns , etc which do not even have that capability.
     
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    Which were not made for that purpose.
     
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    Since most guns are never used for that purpose, how do you make that distinction? Just because something has the capability to do something, that does not mean that is its purpose.
     
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    If is just about perfect as a weapon easily usable by a madman to quickly kill a LOT of innocent and defenseless people. It might be termed the "child killer",it's so good at slaughtering toddlers. Full auto firepower, so necessary in a military rifle, would just waste ammo here where you can pick and choose your targets as they desperately run or try to hide hoping to save their small lives.
     
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    The keyword is madman.
     
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    a law would, if necessary, define an assault rifle or call it whatever.
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Unless it simply got rid of (or stringently licensed ) ALL of them.
     
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    A madman can, (as gun advocates never tire of pointing out) use just about anything. Why do we have to make it so EASY for them?
     
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    Depends on what the term "assault weapon" means. If we go by the legal definition established by the assault weapons ban it's easy.

    Buy an AR15 not considered an assault weapon by the legislation and such a thing exists and attach components that make it into an assault weapon. That's all it takes.

    If you're talking about making one from scratch well you have to start by mining iron...

    Maybe you should define things a lot better before you post ignorance.
     
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    You mean by a teacher leaving the side door open to let him in?

    He could have done the same thing with any semiautomatic weapon including a pistol. For that matter, a shotgun would have been even more devastating at close range like in a class room.

    You are not going to stop anything by outlawing specific weapons and a total ban on firearms is impossible both legislatively and physically.

    The best fast solution is making sure a madman does not enter the school and if he does make it into the school, have sufficient armed guards on hand to stop him. It cannot be done with one or two security guards because they are unlikely to be in the right location when they are needed.

    I have never been particularly fond of the idea of arming teachers because I believe they should be full time and continually trained.
    There needs to be a sufficient number of armed guards in each school to respond quickly.
     
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    I can buy a 3D printer that will do the job for less than what it costs to buy a car. Extremely expensive? Unreliable? Tell that to these people:

     
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    By why it was created.
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    How do you know it was a teacher who left the door open? Do you think a teacher saw the crash and went to help

    If I see somebody crash a truck I'm calling 911 and letting them handle it. I'm not going anywhere close under any circumstances, teachers et al should be better trained to deal with emergencies, which you do by calling 911.
    And in any case they whole thing would have went better if the guy didn't have a gun nor any access to one.
     
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    You will not find a thing in the specifications saying that is why it was created. You are just making it up.
     
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    Nope, that's why guns were invented.
     

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