How Would A Rape/Incest Exception For Abortion Work?

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  1. Dayton3

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    I'm anti choice but even I must admit that I have no desire to force a girl or woman who becomes pregnant by rape or incest to carry the child of their abuser to term.

    But how would this work? For obvious reasons you couldn't simply have a pregnant woman show up and claim she was a victim of rape or incest out of the blue. Some level of proof of the assault would logically be required.

    How would this work in the real world?
     
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    If abortion is banned because it is "murder" then ANY abortion is MURDER.

    The Anti-Choicers canNOT have it both ways.

    They want to look like they are such "caring" people by making exceptions for rape and incest but only prove that they are HYPOCRITES..

    It is either murder or NOT murder.

    The Anti-Choicers canNOT have it both ways.

    THEREFORE raped women and the victims of incest MUST endure a lifetime punishment for something that wasn't their fault.....
     
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    Nothing will work. Raped women do not want to relive their attack and supply you and your court of the proof of an attack that happened a month or more before, when they don't believe there will ever be sufficient proof for pro lifers to convince. It will never be enough. Besides, you will lose on policy, because pro-lifers are more radical than you are, and they do want that woman to have that baby.
     
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    What's wrong with "hypocrisy"?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    If abortion is banned because it is "murder" then ANY abortion is MURDER.

    The Anti-Choicers canNOT have it both ways.

    They want to look like they are such "caring" people by making exceptions for rape and incest but only prove that they are HYPOCRITES..

    It is either murder or NOT murder.

    The Anti-Choicers canNOT have it both ways.

    THEREFORE raped women and the victims of incest MUST endure a lifetime punishment for something that wasn't their fault.....



    In this case it makes it glaringly obvious that Anti-Choicers want to punish women for having consensual sex.
     
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    You keep saying that. What is your evidence?
     
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    Free plan B? How about as soon as the rape kit is finished, plan B is provided. So, get a rape kit, charge your assaulter, and take a plan B. Sounds like a plan.
     
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    Yes though rape is often not that cut and dried.
     
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    So we are going to force a victim of rape to press charges or give birth to the rapists baby?

    Most rape victims don't press charges.
     
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    I think you missed a couple things here. First, the ruling in Hobbs doesn't ban abortion. Why the hyperbole then? I mean you understand how the direct election process in the states works, don't you? You understand how a national constitutional amendment can be accomplished, right? And if not, several of us here can help you learn this.

    My thought is this. Why do democrats continue to want mostly minority folks to remain childless? Is it really so they can continue to do the work democrats expect them to do?
     
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    Do you think people who have abortions remain childless?

    I suspect that most people who've had an abortion also end up being parents.
     
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    Hm.... no, it is. If you are raped, you know it, and even if you suspect it, you should engage the law, have a kit done, and be responsible about it. Rape can't be a "well, now that I think about it, and I regret it, or I want to punish someone else for your own failure to be responsible" BS the left seem to think is ok... If someone forced you to have sex, punish them. There are remedies. Not engaging them seems irresponsible.
     
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    Hmm.. where in the comment did it say your BS response to it? Oh wait. It didn't. So why did you make up something? Nothing else constructive to add? Who said anything about "forcing"? I mean, beside you. Are you suggesting that in the case of a rape the woman would want to have the child? I thought that the left is hysterical because a woman might be forced to carry an unwanted child. So, no providing an adequate solution to that is also "forcing" them to actually take plan B? laughable.

    Get empowered. Charge the folks who assault you. Address the legal question head on. And frankly, why wouldn't you? And you know you can buy plan B all by yourself, right?
     
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    I think your post is evidence enough. Non consensual sex (rape) victims are allowed to have an abortion, consensual sex participants are not.
     
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    Janet Yellen does. Because it keeps women in the labor force. There's video...
     
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    I don't care what Janet Yellen thinks about abortion.
     
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    I am unclear of the point you're trying to make here. Are you suggesting that having consensual irresponsible sex even should give you the right to kill your unwanted potential child?
     
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    LOL.... Of course not.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    If abortion is banned because it is "murder" then ANY abortion is MURDER.

    The Anti-Choicers canNOT have it both ways.

    They want to look like they are such "caring" people by making exceptions for rape and incest but only prove that they are HYPOCRITES..

    It is either murder or NOT murder.

    The Anti-Choicers canNOT have it both ways.

    THEREFORE raped women and the victims of incest MUST endure a lifetime punishment for something that wasn't their fault.....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    If abortion is banned because it is "murder" then ANY abortion is MURDER.

    What TF ! What's all this kerfluffle about if it isn't Anti-Choicers trying to ban abortion !!! ????

    What TF !!


    LOL, so if poor Democrats remain childless the now living poor Democrats will live forever ? To serve Democrats? The Democrats don't need more Democrats?? HILARIOUS OXYMORON.


    My question is why do Republicans want more poor people? They hate them and cut funding to every entity that aids poor children....so why do they want poor people to have more kids?
    So they can pay more taxes to support them ???
     
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    I think I understand the issue. Folks, like you, are soooo conditioned to believe that a court would actually legislate you believe that Hobbs actually did something. Clearly, Hobbs did nothing of the sort. So you are confused. More, you angry about it. And isn't that a little silly?

    Who said that folks who start poor always have to be poor, except for folks, like you? That's a question you should ask yourself.
     
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    The hypocrisy is thick in this one.
     
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    They can give their child up for adoption.

    Thus there is no "lifetime" punishment.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    If abortion is banned because it is "murder" then ANY abortion is MURDER.

    The Anti-Choicers canNOT have it both ways.

    They want to look like they are such "caring" people by making exceptions for rape and incest but only prove that they are HYPOCRITES..

    It is either murder or NOT murder.

    The Anti-Choicers canNOT have it both ways.

    THEREFORE raped women and the victims of incest MUST endure a lifetime punishment for something that wasn't their fault.....


    A pregnancy changes a woman's body for life.

    Rape and incest affect women all their lives.

    So you believe RAPE AND INCEST VICTIMS SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER IF THEY HAVE AN ABORTION?

    That lasts a lifetime...
     
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    So she says she was at a party and when she leaned out the upstairs window to greet a friend, someone took her from behind. She was drunk and doesn't know who he is.

    She was raped and the rapist took a picture of her drivers license and threatened to kill her if she tells anyone.
     

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