5 dead, 16 hospitalized in mass shooting at Highland Park 4th of July parade, shooter being sought

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  1. Steve N

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    And they hate the police and want them disarmed.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You’d prefer they be defenseless?
     
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    Have you ever been shot at? From experience, your first reaction IS NOT to pull out a gun and start shooting randomly. Generally speaking, your first reaction is to get cover and identify the threat. Shooting back usually comes after that unless, of course, you have already identified the threat.
     
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    Who was it, the Philly Mayor, that said yesterday that only cops should be allowed to have guns? If everyone else is prohibited from owning guns then why would the cops need guns? If that's someone's thinking then they may as well just legislate away all guns, cops included.
     
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    The incumbent mayor will probably be re-elected for as long as she wants:
     
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    What would you do? Sit and wait until the shooter gets bored of killing -- like the police in the Uvaldi school.

    FYI:
    • "Basic sniper identification method
    1. The defenders monitor contact. As soon as contact is taken, the defenders try to make sure to take cover. If the defenders are on dismount, they try to make sure cover is the closest and most secure cover possible. If the defenders are mounted, they try to ensure all gunners reduce to "Chin strap defilade" where nothing is showing out of the vehicle but the chin and above. The defenders try to ensure the gunner has proper shielding.
    2. The defenders scan the area to locate the sniper's position.
    3. The defenders pop smoke to cover and conceal their position.
    4. The defenders designate the element, close in with the element and destroy the enemy." Wiki
     
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    In a situation like yesterday, it would have went much worse if there had been a few guys in the crowd that pulled out their sidearms.
     
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    So you think an armed guy hiding behind a trash can wouldn't have been seen as a threat by another guy hiding behind a trash can?
     
  9. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    You followed this up,

    "I'm not sure. I haven't reviewed all of his postings for calls for violence."

    With,

    "but, he looks may be a Q follower"

    You said that being a Q follower played a factor.
     
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    I would have ran away, then petitioned my government to do their job and make it so we weren't the only developed country on the planet where this happens on a regular basis.
     
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    It wouldn't have if they spotted the shooter and brought suppressive fire to bear on his position forcing him to hunker down, or retreat. Pinning him might have helped the cops catch him sooner.

    There's no way to tell, though. That's why I support tactical training for civilians.
     
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    yea, we should be giving out kids tactical training from the day they step foot in school.

    What a joke, yea, let's make sure our civilians are prepared for war, that sounds like a great place to live.
     
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    This post^ is really not well thought out. Sorry, but what could possibly go wrong?

    Dude was on a roof with a high powered rifle.
     
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    I'm referring specifically to the particular thugs that he imitates.

    You know the ones that sing loud obnoxious music about selling crack and killing people and things like that.
     
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    The police are in an impossible position.
    They are a human sacrifice to liberal statist delusions.
     
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    A high powered rifle huh? Y’all wanna ban those now too?
     
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    Non sequitur deflection.
     
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    None of the above. I was asking you a question.
     
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    That question is a rabbit hole. I don't chase rabbits. Re read my post you quoted and dispute it specifically.
     
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    Maybe. There is so much that goes into those judgements and the judgements themselves are so varied between individuals that there isn't a definitive answer. In the military that was a big part of why we trained in teams as well as individually. In the public sphere you need to be aware of and "tuned in" to EVERYTHING that is going on around you. In most cases of public violence the best option is to seek to evacuate as many people as you can until the threat can definitely be identified. That being said, if the guy behind the trash can has identified the threat and is in a position to engage then he shouldn't be worrying about what someone else may be thinking or doing with regard to his actions.
     
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    Being Q may have played a factor in his actions, not that being part of the Q movement requires police to initiate a wellness visit.
     
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    A rifle that fires .223 is a "high powered rifle"?

    Better check that out. ;-)
     
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    Because just so many rappers are liberal....*roll eyes here.
     
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    So, defunding the police isn't defunding the police. You're very helpful in proving my point, my illiterate comrade.

    They had their budgets reduced in a small numbers of cities, for a year or less. And here you are still screaming hysterically.

    Wrong again.
     
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    Defund the gun lobby.
     
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