Philadelphia teens beat 72-year-old man to death with traffic cone <<Moderator's Warning>>

It seems more like à religion...an unshakeable belief in a myrh they never really question.
Unfortunately the highest court in the land défends this moral outrage.
Dig down and stop hiding behind accepted tenets and you start to see the folly for what it is.
"Thus it is written" is the last refuge of the scoundrel who likes things just the way they are even if they don't make sense or have any respect for individual life, good or bad. Or even wholly innocent.
Funnily it is often the churchgoers who are happiest to forfeit the life of another. God's army.
It is almost too late for America. The whole moral question has been answered in the wrong way for too long and to turn it around now is almost impossible.
So more people will die. More blood and guts in the streets. More crime because apparently the police dont have to keep people safe. I might be an old persons home next. Or à hospital ward. Or à hairdressers or a gym. Shall we take bets? Any advance on a schoolroom?
Incredibly small children are murdered and half a dozen people in here ccontinue to protect the culture that allows it to happen...to sell guns to whackos "because you can". Absolutely no interest in trying to prevent the next one, to make the security of the vulnerable better. Just chalk it up to collateral damage. Our of sight, out of mind.
This society is not working. But the political pressure by a lobby maintains the status quo. Because it suits them. It makes them à lot of money. And it makes politicians à lot of money too.
I wonder what price the NRA paid à politician for the life of every one of those children? What were their lives worth to the NRA? How much did they pay à politician to prevent serious gun control which would have prevented that nutter from having access to that gun?
Asking the right questions is à good start. If you have the courage to look squarely at the answers.

 

Ahem.
I just supported my accusation. The one you asked le to support.
I am terrible sorry you didn't get your "gotcha" moment and pulling odd paraphrases from whoever said what about something else doesn't cut it. It just makes you look desperate.

I have to assume the "sélective comprehension" channel is on.
That last refuge of à dishonest man.

 

Bring a couple of those European expert squads to Chicago on a Saturday night and show us?

 

No, you didn't. You made a false claim, which I just proved. There is nothing in any of your posts with me that has supported your twisting of statements made. None.

 

The NRA was not responsible for those deaths, a failure to recognize a threat and follow laws already on the books and piss poor training and procedure allowed it to take place.

 

If the NRA had not lobbied against minimum or no checks on those buying à gun, this would never have happened so easily.

 

I just proved my one and only claim...the one you asked me to prove!
Are you always so dishonest?? I didn't twist anything. I made the claim, youcchallenged it, I proved it and you call that twisting à claim?
On what planet??
Ivam nor going tovget into perpherazl "he said shecsaid"
They are irrelevant.
Now do the honest thing and accept the fact that there were nearly 500,000 gun related incidents in the USA in 2011. As verified by your justice system.
Course each year it goes up but hey...you don't seem to care.
The only thing you care about is protecting the system that allows things to happen that you don't care about.
That's à lot of not caring.

 

Oh, and by the by, wrong poster. You can't even keep your false claims straight.

 

please point to an amendment to the Constitution where a background check is required in order to have those rights upheld?

Would it be free speech, search and seizure, right to vote?

Do you not understand what Rights are?

 

There are background checks in place, have been for a long time.

 

I never said there was one.
I implied that the NRA lobbied congressmen against one in federal law.
Pays to read twice.

 

Quite positive the liberal DA will do absolutely nothing for these kids aka institutional help or mental help in a facility. More like "please don't do this again" type stuff. Sounds like he feels bad for the kids.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/new...-in-deadly-beating-with-traffic-cone/3295968/

 

But they are not respected by states.

The Problem

• Only gun dealers with a Federal Firearms License are required to do a background check before selling a gun in Texas, not private sellers. Texas has NO state requirement for more comprehensive background checks when purchasing a firearm. Therefore, persons prohibited from owning firearms can easily obtain a gun - on the internet, at a gun show, even from a private seller out of the trunk of a car.
• In states like Texas with no state-required background check, research has shown that 57% of private gun sales were done with no background check.
• Around 80% of all firearms acquired for criminal purposes are obtained through transfers from unlicensed sellers.
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• https://www.txgunsense.org › articles

 

You've listened to too many ignorant critics, You can' tjust buy a gun online, delivery is to a licensed dealer and you pay them to do and keep the paperwork which includes a BG check. You can buy a gun at a show from a private citizen, that's true but that is not where these shooters have gotten theirs. Dig a bit and support that claim, find one of the mass shooters that got their guns at a gun show parking lot deal. They have either bought them legally including background checks or gotten them from a relative.

Dedicated criminals have their own sources here just as they do in Europe and they don't pay much attention to laws to hinder their business, again either here or Europe.

How many gun shows have you been to?

 

Yes criminals will be criminals, and we in America don't live in fairy land where you can snap a finger where law abiding citizens won't have to defend themselves against criminals with guns. Your daily diatribe, to be honest, is repetitive, and not reflective of any reality of the situation. We have open borders, if every gun in America disappeared the cartels would immediately make illegal guns their number one product to smuggle to criminals in the states. It would take many many steps, that liberals will not even consider making a move against legal citizens not being allowed guns.

 

These are not normal kids. It is not normal to cause deliberate harm to the point of beating anyone to death. The boy's attorney's comments are abnormal. The kids should be charged.

 

So, a 14 year old girl who was involved turned herself in.

"The girl turning herself in came a day after a 14-year-old boy was charged with murder and criminal conspiracy after police said he and a group of other youths beat Lambert to death in an attack using a traffic cone and other items. That boy had turned himself in along with his 10-year-old brother on Monday."

Girl, 14, Surrenders in Deadly Traffic Cone Beating of Man in Philly – NBC10 Philadelphia (nbcphiladelphia.com)

 

Where in hell were the parents for these kids?

 

uh huh

the govt imposes criteria for a protected right, a group fights it as they should. What background checks do you propose before one can vote?

 

Could you tell me where you got the over 400,000 gun deaths in the US last year?

Thanks in advance.

 

Gun deaths and injuries

 

The statistics I found were for 2020, which was said to be the most recent year for complete data, was as follows:

Total deaths from guns 45,222

54% were suicides 24,292

43% were murders 19,384

611 involved law enforcement

The balance in a variety

While that is certainly too many, it is unlikely that the total increased to 400,000 plus in 2121

 

That fits with most of the statistics I've seen. The poster who quoted the 400,000 likely had an extra zero in there, but then again they also referenced 'half a billion' at one point.

 

It indicates "the country" which IS the citizens. My city has responsibilty to maintain a police force of my local law enforcement. And the founding fathers were quite correct in that the citizens should not have to SOLELY rely on the government to protect them. There are times when the government cannot not of fails to as I have noted to you. And when there are no police there and three thugs are trying to get into my house to do harm I can do all the insisting I want but give me a gun in the meantime.

And the NG can only come out under extreme circumstances and the national military if prohibited from domestic law enforcement.