Wind turbines use oil?

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  1. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    That's a load of **** ..lol

    https://greenlivingnation.com/how-long-does-it-take-a-wind-turbine-to-pay-for-itself/

    https://dbldkr.com/does-wind-energy-pay-for-itself-a-look-at-wind-energy-roi/

    And windmills don't produce no 3,000 mwh per year. They only produce 2, or 3 mwh.

    https://www.goodenergy.co.uk/how-do...rbines have,the more electricity is generated.

    Looks like your source is BS.
     
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    You have to take him seriously, not literally.

    Anyway a lack of dependence is not the same as no use whatsoever.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You change oil in your car.
     
  5. Bowerbird

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    I know - they are talking with people who seem to be confusing lubricant with fuel……..

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  6. Quantum Nerd

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    Haha, almost two turbines per person? You have to revisit your math. Large turbines can produce 1 MW or more. You'd need 3 million of those to power the US.

    It is no wonder that the renewable energy detractors get swayed so easily and then propagate those fake numbers to make renewables look bad and fossils look good. It's all propaganda, and you are falling for it hook line and sinker, because of your political ideology.
     
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    There isn't enough acreage in the US to put 3 million windmills.
     
  8. truth and justice

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    I don't see anything there saying stop using crude oil completely. You do know that a lot of drilling occurs on private land, yes?
     
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    Words have meanings and that was not the only time he spoke of shutting it all down.

    During the debate
     
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    Your links are for a private wind turbine on your house! You think that they cost $3,500,000 each which is the cost of industrial turbines?

    And your third link states "Most onshore wind turbines have a capacity of 2-3 megawatts (MW), which can produce over 6 million kilowatt hours (kwh) of electricity every year." or put another way 6000 mwh per year
     
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    If you don't drill and do you have any idea what percent of possible land is federally controlled?
     
  12. truth and justice

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    "
    America Has One Million Producing Oil and Gas Wells—90 Percent Aren’t Federal

    The vast majority of leasing, drilling, and production happens on private and state lands.

    Even though slightly more than 20 percent of U.S. oil production and slightly more than 10 percent of U.S. gas production comes from leased public lands and federally managed oceans, the location of oil and gas wells clarifies just how much oil and gas production in this country is tied to decisions made on these private and state lands."

    https://www.nrdc.org/experts/josh-axelrod/course-correction-federal-oil-and-gas-leasing-needs-fixing
     
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    Your source is bullshit. Obviously, at 6 million kwh a year, those are industrial windmills. Your source said the produce 3,000 me per year.
     
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    The figures quoted by the other user refer to industrial wind turbines!

    Did you think that the wind turbine in the OP was for a private use and used over 2000 gallons of oil for lubrication? LOL
     
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    I call BS on that.

    https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-many-homes-can-average-wind-turbine-power

    "... the average wind turbine that came online in 2020 generates enough electricity in just 46 minutes to power an average U.S. home for one month."

    Here's an example that I know about from having spent many weekends in Palm Springs:

    https://www.palmsprings.com/attractions/windmills/

    "This wind farm on the San Gorgonio Mountain Pass in the San Bernadino Mountains contains more than 4000 separate windmills and provides enough electricity to power Palm Springs and the entire Coachella Valley."
     
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    Hey that's classified! The DNC doesn't want theirs to know about the many things this world can't do without OIL :)
     
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    So prove your numbers :) I don't see the math you are claiming :)


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    YES the production. I said of the land with possible reserves it controls.

    "The relative acreages of mineral estate available to the federal government versus state and private lands are instructive in this regard. The federal mineral estate contains 2.46 billion acres, made up of 1.76 billion acres in the Outer Continental Shelf and 700 million of onshore lands. The state and private land mineral estate is around 1.5 billion acres by comparison. Yet the vast majority of our oil and natural gas comes from private and state lands."
    https://www.instituteforenergyresea...-production-on-federal-and-non-federal-lands/
     
  19. Polydectes

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    they don't produce much electricity either.
    and to build and to transport and to manufacture and to destroy demolish and to haul off to the dump so it's not really that good of a trade-off
    yeah I think fussing about the lubricant oil is absurd the problem is that they're there that someone built the damn thing and it does very very little and destroys environment.
     
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    They're just memes. And now people want everyone driving electric cars or what I like to call them coal powered cars.
     
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    for lubricant, yet, sooooo..... lol

    the real threat of Windmills Trump says is the sound.... that causes cancer, lol



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    I'm not in the windmill religion so I don't listen and believe.
     
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    "Yet many environmental extremists consider wind turbines 'green' while discounting water turbines in dams as not being considered renewable."

    who said water turbines were not considered renewable?
     
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    Could you please rewrite that in a complete sentence, with punctuation? Thanks.

    If you're talking about the normal energy output from the average wind turbine, the numbers are in the links.
     

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