Elderly California store owner fires at armed robbery suspect who shouts, 'He shot my arm off!’

Speaking of inventing things it seems like you left out some important details..... Like the fact that it's illegal for a criminal to buy a gun already

 

You mean like certain people intentionally segregating themselves in dorms and other safe spaces? Or do you mean like when Biden puts white farmers at the back of the line? Could it be possible you’re thinking of his certain people were given preferred access to the China virus vaccine and hospital care? Maybe you’re thinking of how the ACLU is currently arguing in favor of race being used in college admissions.

If racism is everywhere then it’s against white people - see the above. And are blacks getting harsher sentences because of their prior criminal record? Why yes, they are. When confronted with that fact I’m sure you’ll go all Trump Trump Trump on me.

Look, you have a rep for being one of the most far left woke progressives on this board. You may want to do something about that and not say racism is everywhere because look at all the hundreds and hundreds of other things the left has called racist including hair styles, clothing, the weather, food, the Oscars, Biden, Gone With The Wind, Kate Smith, Cleveland Indians, Washington redskins, F Troop, etc.

Can you name something that isn’t racist and never will be?

 

It's basically the same as the Australian legislature.

Odd that they are asking for non-assault weapons. It seems they want to get as many guns out of owners hands as possible.

I assume this has basically zero chance of passing the Senate given how ludicrously impossible this will be to enforce?

 

I'm fine with shotguns. And I don't see why anyone should have a problem with them.

 

Guys, I didn't mention anything about an Ar-15. I simply noted that a shotgun seems not only sufficient for self-defense, but pretty damn effective. Am I wrong?

 

You oughta to see what a 12 gauge slug will do to watermelon it'll blow the lungs clean out of that damn thing!

 

You just cherry picking some cities, while I posted the whole of the UK.
The gun laws apply for all of the UK.
The whole of the UK saw a decline.

Period.

 

You said “I think this shows you don’t need a machine gun for self-defense”. Can you even list a single example in the United States where a “machine gun” was used in self defense or even a mass shooting? No, you can’t…. so why would you even say that?

 

Is a shotgun sufficient for self-defense?

 

Speaking of things you just can not be bothered to look up yourself.
Yes, most criminals simply buy guns from a store.
Either directly or by a simple middle man who buys it for them.

 

You are referring to a straw man purchase which is already illegal.

As for your other claim I would suggest that you educate yourself on firearm laws. Your post is an error.

 

The bill makes many popular shotguns into “assault weapons”. It also makes the pistol I use more than any other firearm for predator/pest control and euthanasia into an assault weapon.

Yes, that’s the point of having terms with negative connotations like “assault weapon”. They are so ambiguous they can mean one thing today and something else tomorrow. This makes it very easy to turn a legal firearm into an illegal one overnight.

Before this bill, my pistol was just a pistol I purchased a threaded barrel for. Now it’s an assault weapon.

The consensus is it won’t pass the Senate.

The main part of the bill is easy to enforce. Just tell licensed dealers they can’t sell these weapons anymore as new manufacture. Existing weapons are grandfathered and can be transferred through licensed dealers. But who is going to sell an irreplaceable firearm increasing in value ?

What would be hard to enforce is private transfers. The ATF does not “know” with any certainty what anyone currently owns. So a private transfer can never (almost never) be documented or prosecuted.

 

I dunno what you mean. It's your point. And with all these question marks, it seems you don't know what your argument is.

Well the thing is. When they all do it, since white people are far more common around vs black people. It means that black people draw the short straw.

Nope. black people are getting harsher sentenced even when the prior criminal record is similar.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...act-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

Black men who commit the same crimes as white men receive federal prison sentences that are, on average, nearly 20 percent longer, according to a new report on sentencing disparities from the United States Sentencing Commission (USSC). These disparities were observed “after controlling for a wide variety of sentencing factors,” including age, education, citizenship, weapon possession and prior criminal history.



You're just here attacking the messenger with your white nationalistic biased opinion.

 

The Washington post? That’s literally toilet paper. Perhaps you forgot why this thread exists. It’s because people who could have been Obama’s sons tried to rob a 70 year old white person at gun point. Any thoughts on that small tidbit of info?

 

" White nationalist" lol. Is that the new social justice warrior dog whistle?

 

You said "Machine gun" the machine gun ban went into effect in 1986 and is still in effect today. Most people that dont know anything about guns seem to think an AR-15 is a machine gun.. its not.

As for a shotgun being effective self defense gun? Sure.. pretty much any gun is going to be effective for self defense, depending on the specific situation some guns are better then others. The point is you dont know anything about guns so you trying to dictate what guns should be used for self defense is silly..

 

it’s more the handler than the weapon. Have you shot a shotgun before?

 

Unfortunately the discussion about gun was stolen by radicals from the Left and from the Right. Right radicals insist that the Left wants to confiscate all guns and radicals from the Left insist that the Right wants to arm everyone, even mentally sick with AR15.
I consider myself leftists but I am strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment. I am against selling arms to mentally sick and violent people and there should be requirements to get a gun license, something like a driving licence.

 

“Shall not be infringed” includes a license.

 

Ha. I expected it wouldn't pass the Senate. And I suspect those that designed the bill probably knew this. This makes sense, because when I read the bill summary that you provided it seemed implausible for somewhere like the US.

The irony is that, through playing politics, Democrats have been responsible for just about every surge in gun and ammunition sales over the past few decades.

If they focused on legislation that might actually be feasible I would have more respect for them. Perhaps they have a long game that I don't understand, but in the short and medium term they seem be doing the gun manufacturers a favor.

Interesting point about simply banning new gun sales. I hadn't thought of that.

How do you feel about all this? Are you concerned about the potential for personal impact?

 

Yes.

 

I'm not trying to dictate anything to anyone. I'm merely keeping it simple and asking questions.

 

making a statement that "you don't need a machine gun for self-defense" is not asking questions it sure seams that its an attempt to attack the need for "assault weapons" like the AR-15

But maybe I'm wrong here and you really are talking about machine guns (even though that ban is still in effect so its pointless to talk about machine guns)

So just so we all dont misunderstand your position are you good with people buying AR-15s? or want to see them banned?

 

When's the last time you read someone committed armed robbery with one? Can we get back to the actual thread topic now?

Thanks.

 

Great!

Uh oh, about 10 children died from guns that day. Equal trade?